April 19, 201115 yr Let me ask this, why is it not as bad to portray Bush as a monkey as it is Obama? If you take offense to one you should take equal offense to both. Really? You're serious? There is serious history behind depictions of black people as monkeys. That history isn't there with white people. I'm not saying that this official is racist, but you have to be seriously beef-headed to be in politics and not get that you shouldn't do this.
April 19, 201115 yr Honestly, race didn't even cross my mind until someone specifically mentioned it. Generational differences I guess. :idunno: Probably. Or historical understanding and experience. Whichever way we want to call it.
April 19, 201115 yr Let me ask this, why is it not as bad to portray Bush as a monkey as it is Obama? If you take offense to one you should take equal offense to both. Again, history would be your answer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faUCmq7oTXY
April 20, 201115 yr So then what meaning does it have to compare blacks to a monkey? Or whites in the case of W?
April 20, 201115 yr So then what meaning does it have to compare blacks to a monkey? Or whites in the case of W? It's mainly been used to both say that black people look like monkeys and, relatedly, to say black people have more in common with primates than (white) humans, and are thus inferior, stupid, primitive, etc. It doesn't have any racial connotations with white people. It doesn't mean the person who sent this out intended it as such, but if they didn't, as Getslow said, they would have to be seriously dense on racial matters to not realize the implication.
April 20, 201115 yr Not condoning it but this stuff is not exclusive to the tea party... The left has plenty of these idiots too. http://www.kentucky.com/2011/04/19/1713116/vandal-paints-swastika-over-laura.html For the record, swastikas are associated with far right-wing nutjobs, not the left.
April 20, 201115 yr Honestly, race didn't even cross my mind until someone specifically mentioned it. Generational differences I guess. :idunno: Interesting. It very well could be generational. However, it should czause your generation to not jump to the "why do they play the race card" conclusion without wondering where the person is coming from. Many, many people of color who are , say, 35+ will automatically come to the conclusion that this is a "black joke" and they would be correct.
April 20, 201115 yr Bad move, but I am much more concerned with a politician's stance on government spending than I am with thm giggling and passing on a tasteless joke.
April 20, 201115 yr Comparing a president to a simian is nothing new. George B. McClellan called Lincoln " nothing more than a well-meaning baboon " and and the "Original gorilla" and this while Lincoln was his Commander in Chief .
April 20, 201115 yr Honestly, race didn't even cross my mind until someone specifically mentioned it. Generational differences I guess. :idunno: More likely a lack of knowledge of history .
April 20, 201115 yr For the record, swastikas are associated with far right-wing nutjobs, not the left. I believe that was his point. Could be seen as just as offensive.
April 20, 201115 yr Interesting. It very well could be generational. However, it should czause your generation to not jump to the "why do they play the race card" conclusion without wondering where the person is coming from. Many, many people of color who are , say, 35+ will automatically come to the conclusion that this is a "black joke" and they would be correct. You can't know that. From her apology: "I humbly apologize and ask for your forgiveness of my unwise behavior," the statement said. "I say unwise because at the time I received and forwarded the email, I didn't stop to think about the historic implications and other examples of how this could be offensive." In the statement, Davenport also quoted the Bible and said she was "an imperfect Christian" who tried to "live a Christ-like honoring life." "I would never do anything to intentionally harm or berate others regardless of ethnicity," she said. "I will not repeat this error."
April 20, 201115 yr You can't know that. From her apology: "I humbly apologize and ask for your forgiveness of my unwise behavior," the statement said. "I say unwise because at the time I received and forwarded the email, I didn't stop to think about the historic implications and other examples of how this could be offensive." In the statement, Davenport also quoted the Bible and said she was "an imperfect Christian" who tried to "live a Christ-like honoring life." "I would never do anything to intentionally harm or berate others regardless of ethnicity," she said. "I will not repeat this error." Well, I guess you are technically correct that I do not know what was in the heart of the person who crafted the email. I've got a big stack of money that I wouldn't bet on much but I'd bet on this and I'd be right.
April 20, 201115 yr More likely a lack of knowledge of history . Couldn't be further from the truth. I'm very well versed on history. I guess I'm stupid for not immediately separating people into groups by the color of their skin though...
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