I don't know. Seems a little over the top in a public forum, where unlike Mustang not many people have any knowledge of relationships that make the statement valid. Whether accurate or not I don't appreciate an adult being called out in a public forum referencing what his father would have said. Too personal for me.

 

Bingo!! Someone has it figured out!!

What amazes me is that no one has commented on the fact that this guy was able to knock out a bus window. Thos things are in there pretty solid.

I'll say this for Dayton: Kettering has had some great concerts! :ylsuper:

That is a shame about the incident. it may soiund trivial, but to me there is a difference between hitting a window too hard and breaking it when you really didn't mean to, and having a premeditated desire to break the window in front of a team as a sort of coaching ploy. I hope it was not the latter.

The article says "put his hand through a window" but it would not surprise me if in fact he knocked it off its track, bending the metal frame and the window could have shattered when it actually hit the ground.

Took him five times to break. Blood all over the bus. Had to get stiches that night. Thats the fact

The worst part of this ... you have a bunch of people on this thread who "think" that they know why this happened ... but they have no clue.

 

Should the Coach have broken the window? NO.

 

But this is what I will say--there are a LOT of good men and women who would have done much worse if they were presented with the same situation that the coach was in this case.

 

All this bull about "being a good example" etc ... whatever. The coach is doing more than being a good example by staying--because every other coach that I have spoken to in the area would have walked in a heart beat if the same things were presented to them like it was to Coach Deaton.

 

There are some things things that people should NEVER just let roll off their back ... this is one of those cases. Even if it wasn't the "politically correct" thing to do. There is a reason why the coach wasn't let go ... and that is probably because there are witnesses as to what really transpired. You may want to think about that.

SOOOOOOOOOO why don't someone fill us in to what really happened so people know the whole story? Doesnt make sense that anyone would keep a secret if it helps the coach?

This is a shame that this event happened (for the Coach and the Students). Hopefully the 3 game suspension will help heal not only his hand, but any other issues that might have been a factor.

The worst part of this ... you have a bunch of people on this thread who "think" that they know why this happened ... but they have no clue.

 

Should the Coach have broken the window? NO.

 

But this is what I will say--there are a LOT of good men and women who would have done much worse if they were presented with the same situation that the coach was in this case.

 

All this bull about "being a good example" etc ... whatever. The coach is doing more than being a good example by staying--because every other coach that I have spoken to in the area would have walked in a heart beat if the same things were presented to them like it was to Coach Deaton.

 

There are some things things that people should NEVER just let roll off their back ... this is one of those cases. Even if it wasn't the "politically correct" thing to do. There is a reason why the coach wasn't let go ... and that is probably because there are witnesses as to what really transpired. You may want to think about that.

 

I don't care what inside or outside pressures were, when you are a coach you are not only teaching the game but also teaching kids about life and being a role model. What will these kids learn from that situation? Every time something doesn't go your way punch out a window? These kids need to learn that life isn't always going to go your way and when it doesn't it does not give you the right to act like an idiot. I am tired of reading about people making excuses for him. I am sure he is a good guy who made a mistake. But remember it was a mistake. What he did is not justified no matter what. He is the adult and needs to rise above whatever it was.

I don't care what inside or outside pressures were, when you are a coach you are not only teaching the game but also teaching kids about life and being a role model. What will these kids learn from that situation? Every time something doesn't go your way punch out a window? These kids need to learn that life isn't always going to go your way and when it doesn't it does not give you the right to act like an idiot. I am tired of reading about people making excuses for him. I am sure he is a good guy who made a mistake. But remember it was a mistake. What he did is not justified no matter what. He is the adult and needs to rise above whatever it was.

 

Pathetic.

There are a billion adults who would have just swung a punch at a human instead.

There are times when people do things that may not be ideal--but they are the best possible option (which is what happened here).

I also don't remember any other newspaper stories about this coach ... so to say " Every time something doesn't go your way punch out a window?" is out of line and completely unwarranted.

What this group of kids needs to learn (FROM THEIR PARENTS) is that if you say stupid things (and potentially borderline things) people are going to react to protect theirselves/family.

 

KIDS should be taught by their PARENTS. Coaches SHOULD re-enforce positive behaviors that are LEARNED AT HOME. (Which you failed to mention--but that is the way that it should be).

What I don't agree with is people like you who jump to conclusions when you don't even know what happened.

Things are not always black and white. If they were--this WOULD (not COULD--but WOULD) have been a LOT worse.

 

You need to think about this one simple fact ... if the coaches reaction was that bad ... why did he only get suspended for 3 games? (Why wasn't he fired?) Think the principal knows a little something that people like you don't?

Pathetic.

There are a billion adults who would have just swung a punch at a human instead.

There are times when people do things that may not be ideal--but they are the best possible option (which is what happened here).

I also don't remember any other newspaper stories about this coach ... so to say " Every time something doesn't go your way punch out a window?" is out of line and completely unwarranted.

What this group of kids needs to learn (FROM THEIR PARENTS) is that if you say stupid things (and potentially borderline things) people are going to react to protect theirselves/family.

 

KIDS should be taught by their PARENTS. Coaches SHOULD re-enforce positive behaviors that are LEARNED AT HOME. (Which you failed to mention--but that is the way that it should be).

What I don't agree with is people like you who jump to conclusions when you don't even know what happened.

Things are not always black and white. If they were--this WOULD (not COULD--but WOULD) have been a LOT worse.

 

You need to think about this one simple fact ... if the coaches reaction was that bad ... why did he only get suspended for 3 games? (Why wasn't he fired?) Think the principal knows a little something that people like you don't?

 

You are obviously emotionally involved which makes it difficult to discuss. I agree that positive behaviors should be taught at home and coaches should reinforce them, but punching out a window is not a positive behavior. The "conclusion" that I jump too is a coach made a mistake and punched out a window and I do not believe it is they type of behavior that a coach should display. Plain and simple.

I don't care what inside or outside pressures were, when you are a coach you are not only teaching the game but also teaching kids about life and being a role model. What will these kids learn from that situation? Every time something doesn't go your way punch out a window? These kids need to learn that life isn't always going to go your way and when it doesn't it does not give you the right to act like an idiot. I am tired of reading about people making excuses for him. I am sure he is a good guy who made a mistake. But remember it was a mistake. What he did is not justified no matter what. He is the adult and needs to rise above whatever it was.

 

Pathetic.

There are a billion adults who would have just swung a punch at a human instead.

There are times when people do things that may not be ideal--but they are the best possible option (which is what happened here).

 

KIDS should be taught by their PARENTS. Coaches SHOULD re-enforce positive behaviors. (So I obviously agree with that).

What I don't agree with is people like you who jump to conclusions when you don't even know what happened.

Things are not always black and white. If they were--this would have been a LOT worse.

 

You need to think about this one simple fact ... if the coaches reaction was that bad ... why did he only get suspended? (Why wasn't he fired?) Think the principal knows a little something that people like you don't?

 

Really? You think R-Check's post is "pathetic"? Wow. :ohbrother:

 

Because "billions" of people would have hit someone instead? Sure.

 

R-Check's post was dead on. You don't need to know the full story to know that a mistake was made. Unless he was being physically attacked by someone, there was no cause to punch out a window and certainly no cause to hit anyone as you claim would be justified. And, most absolutely, an adult - especially a coach - should take extra care to temper their behavior in front of kids. For you to think otherwise is silly.

 

"Best possible option" - so the coach did not have the option to confront the person(s) with whom he was upset at a later time and better setting? He did not have the opportunity to keep his composure, collect his thoughts, and express his anger a bit more appropriately? The single best solution was to punch out a window? Not saying the other choices would have been easy, but they would have been better than punching out a window. To imply that this was the "best possible option" for the coach is bizarre.

 

And there are always degrees of wrong. Simply because he wasn't terminated doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong or serious. A 3-game suspension is a fairly serious statement and makes the point that needed to be made. But clearly, termination was not taken because this was something out of character for a person the prinicipal has stated he has respect for. It was a mistake - an error of judgment. Something that we all as humans are prone to do from time to time. And sometimes you get punished for these errors of judgment. If the coach felt he didn't deserve it or it was an unreasonable punishment, I'm sure he could have elected to fight the diciplinary action chosen.

I wasn't going to post in this thread. BUT, the judgemental views posted in here are just over the top. Was this the 1st time a coach has done something like this? No. Is this the worst thing a coach has ever done? No. Has the administration at the school investigated and determined corrective action? Yes. Is there something more that will come out of this from un informed opinions on a message board? No. I'm going to leave on this note. " Do not look into someone else's backyard, if yours isn't raked." Everyones got a raked backyard on here??

I wasn't going to post in this thread. BUT, the judgemental views posted in here are just over the top. Was this the 1st time a coach has done something like this? No. Is this the worst thing a coach has ever done? No. Has the administration at the school investigated and dtermined corrective action? Yes. Is there something more that will come out of this from un informed opinions on a message board? No. I'm going to leave on this note. " Do not look into someone else's backyard, if yours isn't raked." Everyones got a raked backyard on here??

 

Which is all well and good, except the story made the news and this happens to be a website to discuss news events - especially those related to local sports - and offer your thoughts and opinions on such stories. Even ones that deal with individuals' and the mistakes they make. I haven't seen many posts in this thread that appear grossly unfair to the coach. No one has claimed he's the anti-Christ. He's apparently a good guy, but a good guy that made a mistake. Trying to legitimize his action of punching out a window in front of kids by claiming he could have/should have hit a person instead is odd, to say the least.