And you guys are making something out of nothing about DRose for two reasons:

1. Rose will not be eligible for a true Max Deal, he does not have enough years in the league. Even 5 years from now the most he could possibly make would be about 15.5 million, no matter what he or the Bulls want. Check the NBA wage scale, it is some good stuff.

2. Contracts are suppose to go down by alot in the future. Now if a max deal was only 14 or 15 million going forward I would think Rose would be a Bull as long as he wanted. After next year he might be looking at 4 years, 10 million per as the most he can make and that would be no big deal at all.

 

Now he may decide he does not want to stay, but that is an entirely different matter.

And you guys are making something out of nothing about DRose for two reasons:

1. Rose will not be eligible for a true Max Deal, he does not have enough years in the league. Even 5 years from now the most he could possibly make would be about 15.5 million, no matter what he or the Bulls want. Check the NBA wage scale, it is some good stuff.

2. Contracts are suppose to go down by alot in the future. Now if a max deal was only 14 or 15 million going forward I would think Rose would be a Bull as long as he wanted. After next year he might be looking at 4 years, 10 million per as the most he can make and that would be no big deal at all.

 

Now he may decide he does not want to stay, but that is an entirely different matter.

 

Gotcha.:thumb:

 

I was definitely wondering how financially feasible it would be to keep 2 max guys plus DRose when his contract time is up.

I do not get the feeling that he has the same desire to pass Jordan that guys like Kobe have. LeBron may wear 23 and all but he is definitely his own guy. He is the one guy in the league who would think that he does not have to compare himself to MJ IMO.

 

He is his own guy but I think he wants to be seen in the same light as MJ. Especially globally and right now he's behind Kobe globally.

Gotcha.:thumb:

 

I was definitely wondering how financially feasible it would be to keep 2 max guys plus DRose when his contract time is up.

 

They will be over the lux-tax for sure I would say, but if they can keep it at a decent level it should be no problem. Actually with this years rules in place, Rose would be making less than 14 million for the next 3 seasons at a minimum. I know me and you thought Rondo was a bargain, but he really is not going to be by much after doing some research. :thumb:

He is his own guy but I think he wants to be seen in the same light as MJ. Especially globally and right now he's behind Kobe globally.

 

I agree. I just dont think that anything would keep him from going to Chicago if that is where he wants to go. MJ or no MJ, I expect him to go to Chi-town, but maybe that is just wishful thinking. I would be happy with Cleveland or Chicago so I could still go to a few games every now and then so I am biased. :thumb:

I agree. I just dont think that anything would keep him from going to Chicago if that is where he wants to go. MJ or no MJ, I expect him to go to Chi-town, but maybe that is just wishful thinking. I would be happy with Cleveland or Chicago so I could still go to a few games every now and then so I am biased. :thumb:

 

Even though I am sure we won't ever know why he doesn't choose some of the places he will have recruiting him, I'd love to hear the reasoning behind why he choose one place over the others. ESPN is dropping the ball. His free agency would be the greatest reality tv show ever.:lol: That is must see tv. Just to see him discussing why he should go to the Clippers is laugh out loud comedy.

Even though I am sure we won't ever know why he doesn't choose some of the places he will have recruiting him, I'd love to hear the reasoning behind why he choose one place over the others. ESPN is dropping the ball. His free agency would be the greatest reality tv show ever.:lol: That is must see tv. Just to see him discussing why he should go to the Clippers is laugh out loud comedy.

 

:laugh: It would be great TV. LeBron choosing the Clippers would be an upset of App. State v. Michigan proportions. The thought of a player having to explain the pros of going to LAC made me drop the food I was eating man.:lol: :thumb:

I agree. I just dont think that anything would keep him from going to Chicago if that is where he wants to go. MJ or no MJ, I expect him to go to Chi-town, but maybe that is just wishful thinking. I would be happy with Cleveland or Chicago so I could still go to a few games every now and then so I am biased. :thumb:

 

The thing that would keep him from going to Chicago is they have never paid the luxury tax. Jared Dudley thinks it's NJ or Chi for James b/c he's taking a big guy (Amare or Bosh) and they'd rather play the 4. So Lopez or Noah make it more appealing. I really didn't think NJ had much of a chance until I read his tweets. LBJ and Bosh have to go somehwere they think the owner wants to win and is willing to pay the tax. In order to win soon it would seem to hurt Chicago that he's never paid the tax and the owner isn't looked at as loyal by current and former players. Stephen A. Smith on the Dan Patrick show said it's Miami. They wouldn't need a true center but does Bosh want to play the 5? All of the possibilities are certainly interesting. Does Boston sneak into contention if Pierce opts out? Does Mark Cuban find a way b/c of Dampier's contract to swing a sign and trade? Is it already Chicago like people have mentioned and supposedly WWW is trying to get to work?

The thing that would keep him from going to Chicago is they have never paid the luxury tax. Jared Dudley thinks it's NJ or Chi for James b/c he's taking a big guy (Amare or Bosh) and they'd rather play the 4. So Lopez or Noah make it more appealing. I really didn't think NJ had much of a chance until I read his tweets. LBJ and Bosh have to go somehwere they think the owner wants to win and is willing to pay the tax. In order to win soon it would seem to hurt Chicago that he's never paid the tax and the owner isn't looked at as loyal by current and former players. Stephen A. Smith on the Dan Patrick show said it's Miami. They wouldn't need a true center but does Bosh want to play the 5? All of the possibilities are certainly interesting. Does Boston sneak into contention if Pierce opts out? Does Mark Cuban find a way b/c of Dampier's contract to swing a sign and trade? Is it already Chicago like people have mentioned and supposedly WWW is trying to get to work?

 

I just dont see anyone else as a real option when it gets down to it.

-NJ has Lopez who is better than Noah, but I cant compare Harris to Rose. Maybe LeBron can though.

-DWade is the man in Miami. Talk about playing in someones shadow, atleast MJ is retired. I cant see LeBron having given himself options to be someones sidekick.

-Dallas I cannot see either. Sure he could pair with Dirk, but Dirk is 32 and it would not be a long term option.

-LAC is just funny. They have talent, but it is the Clippers.

 

And the Bulls have not ever payed the luxury tax but if we are honest with ourselves it is not like they have had a team worth doing it on since the tax was put into place in 2001. The Bulls ruined a good thing once before, certainly they are not dumb enough to do it again especially since there are more dollars to be made now because of marketing and other factors. People forget that Krause made it up to Jordan his last two years in the league by paying him over 30 million per season because he had been so underpaid.

Chicago, Chicago, Chicago.

 

Big Market, good foundation, still Midwest. All of you guys are using the Jordan argument, saying he doesn't want to play in his shadow. Well how many people you know who grow up idolizing someone like that and pretending you are them or you grow up to take their place? Do you go out and buy the Tony Kukoc jersey or do you buy the 23? I mean really, why else would Lebron change his number from 23 to 6 unless he went to Chicago? Makes no sense to do so if he played anywhere else, regardless of what he says. He cannot wear 23 there because it is in the rafters. He grew up idolizing Jordan, now he has a chance to step onto the same floor and inherit the crown.

 

The main thing is he wants to win. Lebron is a team guy and winning comes first. Chicago gives him the best chance to do this, especially by signing him and Bosh. If they keep Deng they will still have the best starting five in the league, and if they move him they have the chance to add super solid role players. Taj Gibson is turning into a player, and as bad as I hate to say it Noah is getting ready to turn into an All NBA caliber center. D-Rose will be a top 3-5 PG in the league for the next 10 years, and we already know what Lebron and Bosh are capable of. Bron and Bosh both being team guys who don't care to share the ball.

 

You say Chicago may not want to spend the money. If that was the case they would not want to free up the money and make the moves they have made. They give up Hinrich who is a key piece for them for basically nothing more but to free up space in order for them to spend it. They draft a guy they don't have to pay in Serapin, and still they may not be finished as it is up in the air what is going to happen with Deng.

 

 

 

 

You guys who don't think its going to happen need to quit kidding yourselves. This coming from a guy who until a month or two ago has been saying for the past couple years he was not leaving Cleveland.

Chicago, Chicago, Chicago.

 

Big Market, good foundation, still Midwest. All of you guys are using the Jordan argument, saying he doesn't want to play in his shadow. Well how many people you know who grow up idolizing someone like that and pretending you are them or you grow up to take their place? Do you go out and buy the Tony Kukoc jersey or do you buy the 23? I mean really, why else would Lebron change his number from 23 to 6 unless he went to Chicago? Makes no sense to do so if he played anywhere else, regardless of what he says. He cannot wear 23 there because it is in the rafters. He grew up idolizing Jordan, now he has a chance to step onto the same floor and inherit the crown.

 

The main thing is he wants to win. Lebron is a team guy and winning comes first. Chicago gives him the best chance to do this, especially by signing him and Bosh. If they keep Deng they will still have the best starting five in the league, and if they move him they have the chance to add super solid role players. Taj Gibson is turning into a player, and as bad as I hate to say it Noah is getting ready to turn into an All NBA caliber center. D-Rose will be a top 3-5 PG in the league for the next 10 years, and we already know what Lebron and Bosh are capable of. Bron and Bosh both being team guys who don't care to share the ball.

 

You say Chicago may not want to spend the money. If that was the case they would not want to free up the money and make the moves they have made. They give up Hinrich who is a key piece for them for basically nothing more but to free up space in order for them to spend it. They draft a guy they don't have to pay in Serapin, and still they may not be finished as it is up in the air what is going to happen with Deng.

 

 

 

 

You guys who don't think its going to happen need to quit kidding yourselves. This coming from a guy who until a month or two ago has been saying for the past couple years he was not leaving Cleveland.

 

Pure speculation on your part. Just like the rest of us. So he knew in March he was going to Chicago when he said he was switching his number? Doubtful.

 

Good theory though.

 

Especially about the "team guy" who "spoils us with his play and has had only 3 or 4 bad games his whole career" and a team guy who had a Kobesque disappearance in games 5 and 6 against the Celtics. Chicago, I can see that but "team guy".......I'll believe that when he goes back to Cleveland for way less money so they can afford to bring someone else in to help him. That is a "team guy" move.

 

 

This is coming from a LeBron James fan and apologist(but not as big as Cats) but let's be real about King James.

Pure speculation on your part. Just like the rest of us. So he knew in March he was going to Chicago when he said he was switching his number? Doubtful.

 

Good theory though.

 

Especially about the "team guy" who "spoils us with his play and has had only 3 or 4 bad games his whole career" and a team guy who had a Kobesque disappearance in games 5 and 6 against the Celtics. Chicago, I can see that but "team guy".......I'll believe that when he goes back to Cleveland for way less money so they can afford to bring someone else in to help him. That is a "team guy" move.

 

 

This is coming from a LeBron James fan and apologist(but not as big as Cats) but let's be real about King James.

 

Name me a star player in the league right now more important to his team than Lebron? He is the ultimate team player considering his status as one of the leagues icons. He was a guy who got slack for the longest time for giving up the ball to teammates late in games because they had good looks. He's a guy whos always going to have close to double digit assists and double digit boards. Me first guys do not do that. Me first guys do not hold the leagues best record two years consecutively with Delonte West, Mo Williams, and Anderson Varejo. You keep this same Cavaliers team, remove Lebron, they don't even make the playoffs next year. That's how important Lebron is to them. You switch Kobe and Lebron and you would have Lebron on the verge of winning three straight and have almost the entire Cavs roster about to come to blows with Kobe.

 

It's not a matter of Lebron wanting to stay in Cleveland, its a matter of him realizing that no matter what happens management has already went all in trying to win now, and has lost all the chips in doing so. The way the team is set up they would almost have to entirely tear it down and build it back up before they will be able to actually put a team together that would contend for consecutive championships. They owe it to Lebron they have made it as far as they have the past few seasons. He makes Mo Williams better, he makes Delonte West better, he makes Varejo, Hickson, all of those guys better the way he manages the game. The Cavaliers cannot get any further than what they have gotten the way they are built now, and Lebron doesn't have three or more years left to wait on them to rebuild. All hope they had left went when they didn't pull the trigger on the Amare deal, all to hold on to Hickson who didn't even really see the floor during the playoffs. Jamison is on the tail end, they have no cap room. Theres no where to go, unless they pull a miracle sign and trade.

I just spoke to a buddy in Jersey. he is saying the local papers are saying the Russian Billionaire that owns them is willing to pay whatever is needed to secure James and market him globally. That would leave James with the most lucrative overall package? Also his buddy JayZee is a minority owner. They are also saying the team has enough talent recovering from injury that would make them contenders with James on the team. I still don't see it happening. I think it will be the Bulls.

I believe Lebron and Wade will stay with their current teams. I also believe Miami will sign Bosh or Amare to pair with Wade.

 

Just a guess. Lebron leaving wouldn't be a surprise, but Wade leaving Miami would surprise me a bit.

I just dont see anyone else as a real option when it gets down to it.

-NJ has Lopez who is better than Noah, but I cant compare Harris to Rose. Maybe LeBron can though.

-DWade is the man in Miami. Talk about playing in someones shadow, atleast MJ is retired. I cant see LeBron having given himself options to be someones sidekick.

-Dallas I cannot see either. Sure he could pair with Dirk, but Dirk is 32 and it would not be a long term option.

-LAC is just funny. They have talent, but it is the Clippers.

 

And the Bulls have not ever payed the luxury tax but if we are honest with ourselves it is not like they have had a team worth doing it on since the tax was put into place in 2001. The Bulls ruined a good thing once before, certainly they are not dumb enough to do it again especially since there are more dollars to be made now because of marketing and other factors. People forget that Krause made it up to Jordan his last two years in the league by paying him over 30 million per season because he had been so underpaid.

 

The thing I think people are missing is how well would Rose and James play together? Same thing w/ Wade and James. Is James really going to go to Miami where Wade already has a title and always be one behind him? James needs the ball in his hands to be great. Rose and Wade are the same. I think Joe Johnson would actually compliment all 3 of them better. I think Harris is a better fit for James than Rose. It might be crazy b/c of how good Rose is and how good he can become, but there has to be some thought that the Billionaire owner is willing to pay the tax. Harris, LBJ, Bosh, and Lopez is a really good start.