Some are questioning the veracity of the story of Mrs. Tebow's claim that she was advised by doctors to abort the child due to her illness. Since 1930 abortions are punishable by a 6 year prison term in the Phillipines.

 

My guess is we'll continue to hear more about this ad all the way upto and after its airing.

 

Actually, good old Gloria Allred is the only one I've heard questioning it and being how Mrs. Tebow was a US citizen it certainly was an option for her.

Actually, good old Gloria Allred is the only one I've heard questioning it and being how Mrs. Tebow was a US citizen it certainly was an option for her.

 

Not in the phillipines. The doctors were subject to punishment.

This morning on the overnight news, I heard statements from the opponents of the commercial. Keep in mind, I don't mind if the commercial airs. But I also think that if a pro-choice group were to decide to air a commercial, that it would be hypocritical to not air it.

 

So, with all that said, the woman who was speaking for the pro-choice position said that CBS should understand that the 40% (women) of the Superbowl viewers would essentially be upset and use their collective power to effect retribution. I assume either by not watching the Superbowl, boycotting advertisers, etc.

 

What a ridiculous statement! I am one of the 40% (women). I don't mind if it airs. I sincerely hate being pigeonholed and collectively spoken for by anyone, no matter what they support. :irked:

 

Nothing upsets me more.

Not in the phillipines. The doctors were subject to punishment.

 

But she certainly had the opportunity to return to the US for the abortion. Advising it being done and performing it are two different things. Happens with surgical procedures daily.

So "choice" is only valid when the "choice" is the death of a fetus... the "choice" to give birth is not a valid "choice" at all.

So "choice" is only valid when the "choice" is the death of a fetus... the "choice" to give birth is not a valid "choice" at all.

 

Where are you getting this? If abortion is outlawed in a particular country there is no choice. That is the point of what Glorie is saying. Now I don't think it has legs, or more people would be jumping on it, but the premise is true.

Where are you getting this? If abortion is outlawed in a particular country there is no choice. That is the point of what Glorie is saying. Now I don't think it has legs, or more people would be jumping on it, but the premise is true.

Easy Ace... I was merely replying in general to the topic and overall flow of the thread... that's why I didn't quote anyone in particular.

 

This is best distilled in RM's post with...

So, with all that said, the woman who was speaking for the pro-choice position said that CBS should understand that the 40% (women) of the Superbowl viewers would essentially be upset and use their collective power to effect retribution. I assume either by not watching the Superbowl, boycotting advertisers, etc.

It fascinates me how certain groups monopolize specific words or concepts. In this instance, "pro-choice" (what I would assume would indicate "those for or in favor of choice"... "those having options"... certainly at least two choices...) actually means "pro-abortion".

 

"Choice" for these individuals is a one way street leading to the "unnatural termination" of a natural pregnency. The decision to go the natural route culminating in birth is not a valid choice... otherwise, they would not be protesting. So just as the word "gay" morphed from meaning "happy" or "carefree" to "homosexual"... specifically "homosexual male"... to "stupid" or "lame" as deployed by teenagers today. "Choice" by "pro-choice" proponets actually means "abortion".

So "choice" is only valid when the "choice" is the death of a fetus... the "choice" to give birth is not a valid "choice" at all.

 

Kind of sounds like what Gloria is pushing, doesn't it?

This is best distilled in RM's post with...

It fascinates me how certain groups monopolize specific words or concepts. In this instance, "pro-choice" (what I would assume would indicate "those for or in favor of choice"... "those having options"... certainly at least two choices...) actually means "pro-abortion".

 

"Choice" for these individuals is a one way street leading to the "unnatural termination" of a natural pregnency. The decision to go the natural route culminating in birth is not a valid choice... otherwise, they would not be protesting. So just as the word "gay" morphed from meaning "happy" or "carefree" to "homosexual"... specifically "homosexual male"... to "stupid" or "lame" as deployed by teenagers today. "Choice" by "pro-choice" proponets actually means "abortion".

 

Much as RM said, I hate being pigeon-holed. Even though you are not specifically pointing me out, I am pro-choice and here is an earlier post of mine that might have missed:

 

If it is what is proposed, the message of the ad is beautiful and should be celebrated by those that are pro-choice, as NOT having an abortion is a choice.

 

With that being said, I really don't know the track record of Focus on the Family, so I can't speak as to whether the bolded is an accurate representation of what they do.

 

The article mentions that CBS denied the United Church of Christ an ad in 2004 that promoted their church's acceptance of gays and "others who might be shunned from more conservative churches." To me, that sounds like a fine commercial, also, and should have been allowed.

Much as RM said, I hate being pigeon-holed. Even though you are not specifically pointing me out, I am pro-choice and here is an earlier post of mine that might have missed:

I read your post before I made my previous comments... which were in no way directed at you. I accept your statements, and respect the fact that for you "choice" actually means "choice". I believe this is true of RM too.

 

I quoted her post because I agree with her that it is ridiculous for this small group to assume that 40% of Super Bowl viewers that happen to be female would share their extreme "anti-choice pro-abortionists"views, or accept the self-appointed role as spokespersons for women everywhere. I find the same absurdity with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton presuming to speak for all African Americans without ever having been elected, appointed or otherwise chosen by a majority of those citizens.

 

I was not picking on her or you in my observation... I was pointing out the absurdity of a group that began by seeking tolerance for their views and coining the word “choice” as part of their platform, eventually morphing into a more intolerant ideology than those they contended with at the time of their establishment. For them, “choice” means “abortion” not the possibility of carrying a child to term and giving it “life”… not what Tim Tebow’s mom did.

 

Otherwise, why would they not accept this commercial with the true “choice” attitude you express?

Saddest part in all of this is what is going to happen to Tebow, this kid is gonna mess up sooner or later and he is seriously gonna hit some hard times. I truly think he is a good person, but he will get torn up in the media sooner or later.

Planned Parenthood has responded :

 

I'll be diappointed if this commercial doesn't air.

Sad commentary on this country that a commercial aimed at saving a baby's life is a bad thing to some.

Pretty good commerical/ad by Planned Parenthood.