And Simon Kenton had the luxury of both Trinity and St. Xavier in the opposite bracket.

 

Do you think anyone would have made it to the title game had those two teams been in opposite sides of the bracket?

I don't like how some teams can make the playoffs without winning a game, however going by overall record here is not a fair stat to talk about with this. I do see what your saying, but shouldn't use overall record because that really does not show how good a team may be, even if they have a bad overall record. I do think every district should have to have at least 6 teams in it if possible. This way it makes you in most cases have to win at least 2 of your district games, and in some cases 3. So you really are actually earning your way into the playoffs then.

 

This can be achieved by doing away with the regions, and combining two districts into 8 conferences. Each conference sends four teams using the conference record to determine who goes. This still leaves some out of conference games but also solves the problems for those that say they can not find games, there would only be three for them to find each year, rather than 7.

Maybe it is just me, but despite SK's success in the playoffs that does justify needing to have 4 teams in the playoffs in my book. Something is wrong with the playoff setup when you can forfeit every single game in some districts, and still make it.

 

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I don't have a problem with 6 state champs. I have a bigger problem with the number of teams that get into the playoffs. As an example, should an 0-10 team get into the playoffs? If I did my counting correctly, there are 11 districs that only have 4 teams in them. Meaning after kickoff the opening night of playoffs, 44 teams are guaranteed play-offs.

 

Don't you mean before the kickoff of the season opener? :laugh:

Do you think anyone would have made it to the title game had those two teams been in opposite sides of the bracket?

People can cite the argument that Simon Kenton was a 4-seed, but you also have to factor in the skewed 6A bracket.

This can be achieved by doing away with the regions, and combining two districts into 8 conferences. Each conference sends four teams using the conference record to determine who goes. This still leaves some out of conference games but also solves the problems for those that say they can not find games, there would only be three for them to find each year, rather than 7.

 

That's not a bad idea. I like what you are thinking. The only problems that might arise is in bigger regions; for example Class 5A Region IV. District 7 has 5 teams and District 8 has 6 teams. That would make 10 games that are required to be played. What about a school like Lincoln County who would be losing a huge rival like Garrard County, or a school like Pulaski County losing Somerset? Mercer County losing Boyle County? Those are huge gates for those schools and they wouldn't be real interested in giving up that money.

People can cite the argument that Simon Kenton was a 4-seed, but you also have to factor in the skewed 6A bracket.

 

But bottom line, they did finish 4th in their district and were able to get to the state finals. They beat who was in front of them. Therefore it's hard to say a 4th place team shouldn't qualify.

But bottom line, they did finish 4th in their district and were able to get to the state finals. They beat who was in front of them. Therefore it's hard to say a 4th place team shouldn't qualify.

I'm not taking a stand either way on the four-team-per-district argument, but I can understand the idea that it's easier to sell with four or five classes than it is with six.

So if somebody could clarify for me, were they taking there overall record into account when awarding playoff births, or was it based on your record against teams in your district and/or class?

 

I would think that whether or not you make the playoffs should be based largely, if not solely on your district record, or at least your record within your class. I don't think, for example, Beechwood's loss to Dixie should count against them, since they're playing 1A ball, and they took on a 5A team.

 

Could someone clear that up for me?

 

It was just your district record that determined if you made the playoffs or not.

How often are the school enrollment records reviewed for reclassification? Seems to me, it should be reviewed every year.

People can cite the argument that Simon Kenton was a 4-seed, but you also have to factor in the skewed 6A bracket.

 

And not factor in the fact that 6A as a whole is skewed?:deadhorse:

I'm not taking a stand either way on the four-team-per-district argument, but I can understand the idea that it's easier to sell with four or five classes than it is with six.

 

I gotcha. Didn't the KHSAA say five classes was tough to make geographically, or something along those lines? I've made it work. Surely they could produce something!

How often are the school enrollment records reviewed for reclassification? Seems to me, it should be reviewed every year.

 

I think it's every two years.

It was just your district record that determined if you made the playoffs or not.

 

Well then the way I see it, even if your team posted an overall good record during regular season play, what's the problem with them not making the playoffs if they weren't able to perform against the same teams they're going to be matched up against in the beginning of the playoffs?

 

I'm not trying to say we should necessarily go back to the two-team playoffs, but under that system, but hypothetically speaking, it sure makes the regular season mean an awful lot more. Granted, if you were to go back to that system, it would have to go along with another major revision to the class system, but I don't see a problem with teaching these young men that they always need to be putting forth their best effort.

 

When we grow up and are forced to take the lessons we've learned on the football field and apply them to to real life situations - college or jobs, for example - I don't know of many situations where people are given a "regular season", and then a "playoff" to make up for their efforts during the regular season. If you flunk an exam in you college, that grade carries through to your final grade...period. Professors don't (in my experience) forgive you a failed exam, and allow you to try to make things back up at the end of the semester.

 

Haha, I'll step down off of my soapbox now, but that's certainly a good way to look at things if you ask me.

I gotcha. Didn't the KHSAA say five classes was tough to make geographically, or something along those lines? I've made it work. Surely they could produce something!

I posted a five-class alignment on this board about two or three years ago. I much preferred it to six classes. It may still be available via a search.