Or even jokes about the Spanish Inquisition, or maybe one involving a black man dressing up like a member of the KKK or someone doing a musical about Hitler...thank God people don't do anything like that. People who are uptight might go insane if that kind of stuff happened.

 

You're right. It's all Mel Brooks fault.

 

"Don't miss, Hitler on Ice. Jews in Space."

You're right. It's all Mel Brooks fault.

 

"Don't miss, Hitler on Ice. Jews in Space."

 

I was actually thinking Monty Python with the Spanish Inquisition myself.

I was actually thinking Monty Python with the Spanish Inquisition myself.

 

:lol: Even Better.

 

But as great as that skit was, they didn't have "the Nuns."

 

"Bring on the Nuns!" :clap:

I agree. Women wearing pants and shorts used to not be permitted either. Times change, whether for the good or bad. But is this the point?

 

All change is not good, such as trashing people. Famous people are targets, thieir children are not.

I just know I would not like my children should be attacked in such a manner. As a teacher you should know this as well as anyone. Are not teachers to report bullying in school? Here we have an adlut going after a minor which is worse. Even in school if you had an 18 year old bulling another 18 year old you would have to report it.

Same here.

 

It was not Imus' job to make jokes, so I don't see how these situations are anywhere near the same.

 

Also, Dave mistakenly made a joke about a 14 year old. Imus knowingly made a racist comment. How are those similar?

 

I doubt either of us know what "Imus' job" was/is.

 

My point is simple, if you feel Imus was out of line, you have to feel Letterman was as well. It's the same situation, one made a joke about Rutgers basketball players, the other about a public figure's daughter.

 

I personally don't find either the least bit wrong. Heck, Letterman could have been talking about the Palin's youngest child and I wouldn't see anything wrong with it.

 

It really goes back to cch's point. Those that are defending Letterman are for the most part falling in line with their "Dem" political views, and those that are criticizing are falling in line with their "Rep" views. It was comedy, a bad attempt at it, but comedy none the less. That's it.

All change is not good, such as trashing people. Famous people are targets, thieir children are not.

I just know I would not like my children should be attacked in such a manner. As a teacher you should know this as well as anyone. Are not teachers to report bullying in school? Here we have an adlut going after a minor which is worse. Even in school if you had an 18 year old bulling another 18 year old you would have to report it.

 

I think it's clear from the video that Letterman did not know it was the 14 year old daughter but assumed it was her 18 year old daughter (you know the one whose always in the spotlight?). He apologized and made clear he never intended his barb to be aimed at a minor.

 

 

You seem to be treating this case as different than the others mentioned above, or at least seem to be more effected by this one versus the above when the target in question was clearly a minor and satirists and talk show people still labeled and blasted away.

 

Your points about "trashing people" are well taken by me and deserve merit but not to the extent of over-reacting. I might add that I think the Bush girls were also lampooned and the butt of tasteless jokes but I didn't see the outcry then as I do here. (maybe I just missed it.)

I doubt either of us know what "Imus' job" was/is.

 

My point is simple, if you feel Imus was out of line, you have to feel Letterman was as well. It's the same situation, one made a joke about Rutgers basketball players, the other about a public figure's daughter.

 

I personally don't find either the least bit wrong. Heck, Letterman could have been talking about the Palin's youngest child and I wouldn't see anything wrong with it.

 

It really goes back to cch's point. Those that are defending Letterman are for the most part falling in line with their "Dem" political views, and those that are criticizing are falling in line with their "Rep" views. It was comedy, a bad attempt at it, but comedy none the less. That's it.

 

I think it's a little simplistic to say the bolded. I did not vote for Obama and in fact have voted for the GOP candidate four out of the last 7 presidential elections. Yet I think Letterman was ignorant more than malicious. For me it's not a political thing at all.

I think it's a little simplistic to say the bolded. I did not vote for Obama and in fact have voted for the GOP candidate four out of the last 7 presidential elections. Yet I think Letterman was ignorant more than malicious. For me it's not a political thing at all.

 

That's why I said for the most part. Heck, I can't stand anything about Obama or Letterman for that matter and I see nothing wrong with what Letterman said. And it's the same for those voicing their displeasure for Letterman and the GOP side...

That's why I said for the most part. Heck, I can't stand anything about Obama or Letterman for that matter and I see nothing wrong with what Letterman said. And it's the same for those voicing their displeasure for Letterman and the GOP side...

 

:thumb:

What is at stake here is common decency, of which I have found that too many in today's world do not have.

What if your mother had been the butt of a similiar joke? Would you just let slide? How about jokes about Jews in concentration camps, would that be OK because some bigot finds it funny.

 

If Letterman wants to be funny, he should study the antics of Bob Hope or Red Skelton, guys who could be funny without being trashy.

 

Pay attention.

 

I've already stated that I do not know how I would react. That's irrelevant since I'm not talking about Palin's reaction. Keep up.

 

The world, like it or not, is way past Bob Hope being considered funny. Times change. Tastes change. Styles change.

So if he was joking, you agree that he was unjustly fired, correct?

 

Unless you are his employer you cannot argue "justly or unjustly." Its a business decision.

I doubt either of us know what "Imus' job" was/is.

 

My point is simple, if you feel Imus was out of line, you have to feel Letterman was as well. It's the same situation, one made a joke about Rutgers basketball players, the other about a public figure's daughter.

 

I personally don't find either the least bit wrong. Heck, Letterman could have been talking about the Palin's youngest child and I wouldn't see anything wrong with it.

 

It really goes back to cch's point. Those that are defending Letterman are for the most part falling in line with their "Dem" political views, and those that are criticizing are falling in line with their "Rep" views. It was comedy, a bad attempt at it, but comedy none the less. That's it.

 

Fair enough. I just assumed he talked about politics, it is possible that he tries to add humor in his show...I don't know because I never listen.

 

I still see a difference between Letterman's comments and Imus'. Imus insulted a group of people with a comment that could be taken as racist. Letterman made a joke about something different. He used topical humor (I think that's what it is called :lol:) by using ARod (who has been with a few different women lately) and Bristol, who is famous for being Palin's pregnant daughter. Personally, I think it is hilarious that Bristol got pregnant at a young age, but now goes around preaching abstinence. That's hilarious to me and he took advantage of it. And the Palins getting upset probably just gave Dave better ratings.

 

Do I think Imus should have been fired? I don't think his comments were bad enough that they would have made me "outraged" or anything like that, no. I really don't see either as being that big of a deal, but I can see a difference.

 

And I think Letterman's jokes were funny.

I think it's a little simplistic to say the bolded. I did not vote for Obama and in fact have voted for the GOP candidate four out of the last 7 presidential elections. Yet I think Letterman was ignorant more than malicious. For me it's not a political thing at all.

 

I did not vote for Obama either.

All change is not good, such as trashing people. Famous people are targets, thieir children are not.

I just know I would not like my children should be attacked in such a manner. As a teacher you should know this as well as anyone. Are not teachers to report bullying in school? Here we have an adlut going after a minor which is worse. Even in school if you had an 18 year old bulling another 18 year old you would have to report it.

 

Well, she isn't in school at the moment, is she, so "bullying" doesn't apply. She's now an 18 year old that can do anything she wants to, except drink alcohol.

 

Evidently you haven't really been reading my posts. Let me condense:

 

1) Letterman screwed up when he didn't check to see which daughter was in attendance with the Palins. I don't think he meant the jokes about Willow.

2) I'd be mad, too, if I were the Palins and I thought the joke was about my 14 year old. I'd be upset if it was about my 18 year old, but due to the fact that it just adds to a stigma that she already created herself.

3) "Knocked up" is not sexually explicit in 2009.

 

Let me add a new one. I've never been a big fan of David Letterman's humor. I used to watch Carson and Leno but haven't tuned in to Conan yet.

Well, she isn't in school at the moment, is she, so "bullying" doesn't apply. She's now an 18 year old that can do anything she wants to, except drink alcohol.

 

Evidently you haven't really been reading my posts. Let me condense:

 

1) Letterman screwed up when he didn't check to see which daughter was in attendance with the Palins. I don't think he meant the jokes about Willow.

2) I'd be mad, too, if I were the Palins and I thought the joke was about my 14 year old. I'd be upset if it was about my 18 year old, but due to the fact that it just adds to a stigma that she already created herself.

3) "Knocked up" is not sexually explicit in 2009.

 

Let me add a new one. I've never been a big fan of David Letterman's humor. I used to watch Carson and Leno but haven't tuned in to Conan yet.

 

 

I don't believe she can rent a car either...