No, it was about a double standard. The tasteless comments about the black players got the guy fired. The jokes about a conservative, white woman is OK.

What is wrong with this country, in part, is the acceptance of this type of trash as comedy. But mix this incident with other liberal trashy ideas and that is why we have many of the moral problems that we have in the US.

 

You're wrong. You list the reasons WHY it was about business and nothing more. The incident with Imus got the owners in hot water so they bailed on Imus. If the joke had been in extremely poor taste but didn't come with an uproar the joke would not have gotten him fired.

Two wrongs do not make a right. And I also recall people on both sides of the political aisle saying it was wrong. But once again, a double standard. The liberals say it is OK to trash Republicans, but leave the Dems alone.

 

I don't recall an uproar when Sen. McCain told the joke about Chelsea Clinton being so ugly because Janet Reno was her father. Funny? Maybe. But it was about a kid. I don't recall it when Rush held up a picture of Chelsea while saying the White House had a new dog.

 

The "double standard" cry is silly and completely inaccurate.

 

Jokes are equally offensive.

Apparently at 28 years old, a 'kid' is still off base since MSNBC reporter David Schuster was suspended last year for saying that Hillary Clinton was 'pimping' Chelsea Clinton by having Chelsea make campaign appearances for her.

 

Come on , Shooter. That had nothing to do with Chelsea's age. It was the "pimping" part.

I do not think it is as much a Rep/Dem issue as it is a woman issue.... in that Letterman showed disrespect to women. I am not a female and I cannot judge the severity of the flight attendant comment, but it seemed pretty harsh to me.

 

Women are the only ones who have an argument and even then I'd default to the "its comedy" angle.

 

The folks on here and the talking heads are not upset because it was a woman solely or because it involved children solely. The political affiliation is driving this.

You must give credit to Palin though for milking this for all its worth. She's playing the sympathy card with her base. She's had a rough go even recently with the plagarism charge (yes, the same charge that Biden had years ago) and unhappiness with party fundraisers for her lack of commitment and lack of response. She's somehow the top draw in the party right now and is a fundraising star. My guess is this incident will be part of her stump speeches for some time.

^So according to you Palin is somehow in the wrong here?

^So according to you Palin is somehow in the wrong here?

 

I wouldn't say that.

 

I can't say how I would react to comedy about my family so I'm not criticizing her. I'm criticizing the others who IMO are overreacting and reading things into it that aren't there.

So his ignorance is an acceptable excuse?

 

I don't know what you are getting at. An acceptable excuse for what? The intended butt of his joke was an 18 year old. There was no rape joke.

 

He needs to show remorse for not having his facts straight.

Do you not agree that if you're going to be making jokes about people, you should have your facts straight first?

Do you not agree that if you're going to be making jokes about people, you should have your facts straight first?

 

I don't see how that's relevant to the joke itself. Does it make it funnier if the 18 year old had been in New York?

NY Law:

 

Second-degree rape for anyone age 18 or older to engage in sexual intercourse with someone under age 15.

 

Up to seven years in prison

 

 

Since we know Willow Palin is 14 and ARoid is over 18 should Willow get "knocked up" by ARoid it would be rape according to NY law.

 

Except that the intended butt of the joke was not the 14 year old Willow (that few people even know about), but instead the 18 year old Bristol (that everyone knows about, due to her pregnancy).

 

Trust me, if I thought that he intended Willow to be the butt of the joke, I'd be upset, too. It certainly appears to be a misunderstanding centered around which daughter was with the Palins.

I don't see how that's relevant to the joke itself. Does it make it funnier if the 18 year old had been in New York?

 

Considering the whole premise of the joke was her being in New York....

The incident with Imus got the owners in hot water so they bailed on Imus. If the joke had been in extremely poor taste but didn't come with an uproar the joke would not have gotten him fired.

 

The "double standard" cry is silly and completely inaccurate.

I agree with you that Imus was fired because of the uproar (rightfully so from a business perspective) and that Letterman should not be fired (because it is his right to make lame jokes and the NBC bosses have no reason to fire him- in fact, this probably got them more publicity!).

 

However, perhaps the double standard that is being referred to is not in that Imus was fired and Letterman is not, but instead to the way people react. I think what people are saying is that people were outraged at Imus's mildly offensive comment, but not outraged at Letterman's sexually explicit comment.

 

These are not necessarily my thoughts on the "issue", but perhaps that is the double standard being referred to.

The folks on here and the talking heads are not upset because it was a woman solely or because it involved children solely. The political affiliation is driving this.

Would you make 20 posts defending a stupid joke if not for your bias for Sarah Palin? If Letterman made a joke accidentally referring to Lindsey Lohan's 16 year old sister instead of Lindsey, and StickerMann posted it in Gen. Disc., would you feel the same passion to defend Letterman? The anger at Letterman is politically motivated, but I wager that your vigorous defense of the rights of comedians is politically motivated as well- correct me if I am wrong.

 

For the sake of transparency, my political affilation of 3rd-party, my general condescending attitude for these types of issues, and my frustration for the politicization of every issue and neverending biases of American voters are fueling my posts in this thread, and I'll admit that. :lol:

For the record, I agree with Pep, there is nothing that is off limits in my book. However, if you are going to try and make excuses for him, as many are trying to do in here, don't use ignorance.

 

Oh, please! You can't have it both ways. For the record, people certainly make mistakes - not knowing/researching all the facts can be one of them.

Considering the whole premise of the joke was her being in New York....

 

Are you new to comedy?

 

Hint: The guy walking down the street didn't really see a priest, a nun, or a rabbi.