June 14, 200917 yr I don't need to reevaluate anything, but thanks for trying to tell me how to live my life. I don't care what others think is funny. If I think something is funny, I will laugh. I've heard much worse...much much much worse said in comedy. And I've heard it come from guys who did comedy a long time ago. These types of jokes aren't new and they aren't coming from a new generation. Good for you! I am so glad YOU have it all figured out. I wish you the best.:ylsuper:
June 14, 200917 yr Good for you! I am so glad YOU have it all figured out. I wish you the best.:ylsuper: I know I don't need to tell other people what to believe...or what is funny...or what they need to "reevaluate".
June 14, 200917 yr Common decency does not (or should not change) no matter the length of time. Vulgarity is not funny. This is my opinion and the opinion of many others. Your argument about Elvis just proves my point, the more that vulgar, crass, and distasteful "humor" is put before us, the more desensitized we become. I, for one, do not want to become desensitized. I prefer decency prevail. I do not know your age but I doubt you were 40+ in the 1950s. So I ask, had you been 40+ in the 50s would you have also been anti-Elvis?
June 14, 200917 yr Reading some of the things here I feel like I am watching the video's from "Citizens for Decent Literature."
June 16, 200917 yr Letterman will officially apologize to Mrs. Palin on tonight's show. Please make this non-story go away. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/15/letterman-apologizes-to-p_n_215927.html
June 16, 200917 yr BTW if this joke was so upsetting to Mrs Palin and her family why did she get her dander up last year when SNL did a skit in which they joked about incest in the Palin family? Not only did she not get upset she went on the show a month later. So if I'm following along, its not cool AFTER the election but while you're campaiging for the White House you'll swallow your pride and anger as long as you've got a chance to be on SNL. Am I following along?
June 16, 200917 yr BTW if this joke was so upsetting to Mrs Palin and her family why did she get her dander up last year when SNL did a skit in which they joked about incest in the Palin family? Not only did she not get upset she went on the show a month later. So if I'm following along, its not cool AFTER the election but while you're campaiging for the White House you'll swallow your pride and anger as long as you've got a chance to be on SNL. Am I following along? Your memory is incorrect, she did get her dander up, quite a bit. The second bolded, you're correct, it's the same reason Obama picked for his running mate a man who had said Obama was not experienced enough to be president.
June 16, 200917 yr I believe kids should be left out of the situation all together. Even if a child is 18 or older it just isn't the right thing to do. I felt sorry for John Kerry and George Bush's daughters in the last election. I thought all 4 girls were given some negative publicity. Agreed. I think you should leave families out of the "discussion" entirely. That includes children (of whatever age) and spouses. I know humor is particular to each person, but I have to say I've been somewhat surprised by what certain people on here think is funny. If taking jabs people is funny, I just don't get it. Do people feel better about themselves when they see other people made fun of? I think it would be interesting to study what a person thinks is funny reveals about their personality, intelligence level and upbring and see if there is any correlation. I'd also like to study the personality background of people that became comedians. From the little I've cared to pay attention in the past, I want to recall that several comedians grew up insecure and used the comedy stage to get attention and re-assurance. I've never understood why people think cheap comments about people are funny. Then again, I've never understood "potty humor" either. Oh well, to each their own. I will say I was glad to see on TV this morning that Letterman apologized. Kudo's to him.
June 16, 200917 yr Your memory is incorrect, she did get her dander up, quite a bit. The second bolded, you're correct, it's the same reason Obama picked for his running mate a man who had said Obama was not experienced enough to be president. Come on, 75. That's your retort? So she DID get upset about a program joking about incest in her family YET she STILL went on the show?
June 16, 200917 yr Agreed. I think you should leave families out of the "discussion" entirely. That includes children (of whatever age) and spouses. I know humor is particular to each person, but I have to say I've been somewhat surprised by what certain people on here think is funny. If taking jabs people is funny, I just don't get it. Do people feel better about themselves when they see other people made fun of? I think it would be interesting to study what a person thinks is funny reveals about their personality, intelligence level and upbring and see if there is any correlation. I'd also like to study the personality background of people that became comedians. From the little I've cared to pay attention in the past, I want to recall that several comedians grew up insecure and used the comedy stage to get attention and re-assurance. I've never understood why people think cheap comments about people are funny. Then again, I've never understood "potty humor" either. Oh well, to each their own. I will say I was glad to see on TV this morning that Letterman apologized. Kudo's to him. :clap::thumb:
June 16, 200917 yr Your right, common decency has gone the way of the dinosaur. Same with simple civility. It's not just in comedy though. Disrespect, vulgarity, distatestul and crass comments are prevelent throughout pretty much every form of media, and I often am amazed at the number of supposed upstanding citizens who act in such ways. Well stated Rockmom. What really surprises me is the total lack of consideration of others that some people have today. If I want to drive 40 in the high speed lane and it backs other people up, I'm going to do it. If I want to ride with my cycling buddies three abreast on a road and block traffic, I'm going to do it. If I want to walk my dog, have it deficate in your yard and not pick it up, that's what I'm going to do. If I want to play loud music late at night and bother my neighbors, I'm going to do it. Simple civility was lost when the Me Generation came of age in my opinion. Sad.
June 16, 200917 yr Well stated Rockmom. What really surprises me is the total lack of consideration of others that some people have today. If I want to drive 40 in the high speed lane and it backs other people up, I'm going to do it. If I want to ride with my cycling buddies three abreast on a road and block traffic, I'm going to do it. If I want to walk my dog, have it deficate in your yard and not pick it up, that's what I'm going to do. If I want to play loud music late at night and bother my neighbors, I'm going to do it. Simple civility was lost when the Me Generation came of age in my opinion. Sad. I can't agree with you enough on this one. It's very sad!
June 16, 200917 yr FWIW, I consider myself a Republican and I don't see why everyone is making a big deal out of the comments. I never even saw the original joke, but because Palin et al. made such a big deal out of it, I checked it out. The jokes could have died quietly, but instead, now everyone and their brother is youtubing it. Seems a tad counterproductive if you ask me. :thumb: In America today, we need lawyers and the PC Police to read over and pre-approve anything we might say beforehand to avoid "offending" someone. I put "offending" in parenthesis because in the majority of these cases, I don't believe for one second that the "offended" party cares that much. But, everybody wants to get their due "respect" (or whatever they're looking for), so they feign outrage at any opportunity. It's tiresome. The Palin's are only the latest in a line of several thousand conveniently "offended" people in the United States. I'm to the point now where I'm willing to overlook real offenses just to break this cycle. Americans have to be the most thin-skinned people on earth. When did this happen?
June 16, 200917 yr :thumb: In America today, we need lawyers and the PC Police to read over and pre-approve anything we might say beforehand to avoid "offending" someone. I put "offending" in parenthesis because in the majority of these cases, I don't believe for one second that the "offended" party cares that much. But, everybody wants to get their due "respect" (or whatever they're looking for), so they feign outrage at any opportunity. It's tiresome. The Palin's are only the latest in a line of several thousand conveniently "offended" people in the United States. I'm to the point now where I'm willing to overlook real offenses just to break this cycle. Americans have to be the most thin-skinned people on earth. When did this happen? I understand your point and somewhat agree with you. People can be too thin skinned and get offended too easily. Then again, there's nothing wrong with living your life in a way that attempts to unnecessarily offend people. If I knew that I was going to do something that would offend someone, I wouldn't do it if I could avoid it. I assume you'd agree with that, wouldn't you?
June 16, 200917 yr I understand your point and somewhat agree with you. People can be too thin skinned and get offended too easily. Then again, there's nothing wrong with living your life in a way that attempts to unnecessarily offend people. If I knew that I was going to do something that would offend someone, I wouldn't do it if I could avoid it. I assume you'd agree with that, wouldn't you? Absolutely. I don't try to offend people...I'd never make it as a comedian. In this case, Letterman cracked a few jokes that not everyone liked. However, they hardly warranted this kind of reaction. But, its more than just this case...stuff like that has happened over and over for years now. I have no problem with people finding it offensive. I just don't believe every case warrants a public outcry and reprimand. For one, it detracts from the cases that do warrant it (like the boy who cried wolf), IMO. I'm not defending peoples actions.
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