June 10, 200917 yr There's a simple solution to that. They simply discard the statements of Jesus' divinity as a corruption of the texts by the writers of the New Testament. That way, they get to have their cake and eat it too. Yeah I'm sure they like to pick and choose which scriptures are accurate and which aren't based on what makes their view look better.
June 10, 200917 yr Criticizing Muslims for not doing anything to address and condemn the terrorists who they claim are "hijacking" their "peaceful religion" is hardly anti-muslim. More accurately, it's the truth. And, as a Christian, yes, I want Islam eradicated from the world. That's inherent to the Christian faith. We want the world to accept Christ. We want all people to attain salvation through him, and thus, by default, all other religions eradicated. So, I ask you, as a Christian, is it your hope that Muslims would accept Christ or that they would remain devoted to the teachings of Muhammad and the Islamic faith? And, as a Christian, am I anti-Muslim if I choose the former? Maybe the term "eradicate" is too strong and carries the wrong impression. The statement: "I would like all persons of any faith, Muslim included, to come to the saving knowledge of Christ," would be easier and more accurate. The first statement conjures up the visions of the Crusades, Inter-faith conflicts of Europe (see the Hougounots, Ana-Baptists, Catholics and Anglicans), and even the Inquisition. Conversion by death or coersion. Jesus may compel, implore and direct by Coersion is not what I see Him doing.
June 10, 200917 yr While I believe Allah and Yahweh/Cristos God are different - they do have much in shared religious history. The most obvious is the Abraham story. The first born of Abraham was Ishmael and God chose to save he and his mother Haggar from death. (re Genesis) The first born of the Promise of God (as Judeo and Christian Scholars view it) is Issac. Centuries later the Arab/Muslim world believed their lineage went back to Ishmael and that would make these two branches very close. However I believe that the Allah that Muhammad created was just that, his creation and not reflective of the God the real Abraham followed. Just my take. :thumb:
June 10, 200917 yr I'm glad that I don't live in constant fear of an entire religion/race. Perhaps that's being naive; but I simply can't imagine thinking that if I saw a Muslim on the street I'd have to run and hide.
June 11, 200917 yr While I believe Allah and Yahweh/Cristos God are different - they do have much in shared religious history. The most obvious is the Abraham story. The first born of Abraham was Ishmael and God chose to save he and his mother Haggar from death. (re Genesis) The first born of the Promise of God (as Judeo and Christian Scholars view it) is Issac. Centuries later the Arab/Muslim world believed their lineage went back to Ishmael and that would make these two branches very close. However I believe that the Allah that Muhammad created was just that, his creation and not reflective of the God the real Abraham followed. Just my take. :thumb: Make that two of us.:thumb:
June 11, 200917 yr Criticizing Muslims for not doing anything to address and condemn the terrorists who they claim are "hijacking" their "peaceful religion" is hardly anti-muslim. More accurately, it's the truth. And, as a Christian, yes, I want Islam eradicated from the world. That's inherent to the Christian faith. We want the world to accept Christ. We want all people to attain salvation through him, and thus, by default, all other religions eradicated. So, I ask you, as a Christian, is it your hope that Muslims would accept Christ or that they would remain devoted to the teachings of Muhammad and the Islamic faith? And, as a Christian, am I anti-Muslim if I choose the former? Would it be anti-christian to say that I hope that no matter what religion someone chooses that it gives them peace of mind and happiness?
June 11, 200917 yr Criticizing Muslims for not doing anything to address and condemn the terrorists who they claim are "hijacking" their "peaceful religion" is hardly anti-muslim. More accurately, it's the truth. I would call your "truth" stereotyping. And, as a Christian, yes, I want Islam eradicated from the world. That's inherent to the Christian faith. We want the world to accept Christ. We want all people to attain salvation through him, and thus, by default, all other religions eradicated. So, I ask you, as a Christian, is it your hope that Muslims would accept Christ or that they would remain devoted to the teachings of Muhammad and the Islamic faith? And, as a Christian, am I anti-Muslim if I choose the former? As christians, we should want non-believers to find their way to God. However, I think that there are some that prefer eradication to mean the ending of lives.
June 11, 200917 yr Would it be anti-christian to say that I hope that no matter what religion someone chooses that it gives them peace of mind and happiness? Good post. :thumb:
June 11, 200917 yr Would it be anti-christian to say that I hope that no matter what religion someone chooses that it gives them peace of mind and happiness? Uh, technically yeah. According to true Christian doctrine there's only one way to have true peace of mind and happiness and to suggest otherwise would be comprimising the teachings of Jesus Christ.
June 11, 200917 yr I had a co-worker who was a Muslim. In our job we rode on a train to Cincy and back so we spent a lot of time alone and we talked. I was in no fear and asked him many questions. He knew the Old testament very well and understood the basics of my belief in my Savior. Now there were some times he got frustrated with me, but that happens to anyone who discusses religion with me. Ask my wife/friends/BGPs/Family and many more. Jesus said..."No one comes to the Father except through me"...John 14:6
June 11, 200917 yr "In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist; And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist; And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew; And then... they came for me... And by that time there was no one left to speak up."
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