June 9, 200917 yr I'm fairly certain you didn't intend it this way, but that almost comes off as if its viewed as a minor hurdle to clear in reconciling the two faiths (Christianity and Islam). Jesus Christ is the very foundation of our faith and redemption. To deny His divinity is to deny the entire religion. Any similarities between Christianity and Islam are irrelevant because they disagree on this. If you believe one is right, then by default you have to believe the other isn't. I certainly wouldn't expect a Muslim to tell me that my beliefs about God and Christ were correct. I do not believe Muhammad was inspired by God. He clearly denies the divinity of Christ. A man inspired by God would never do that. The difference in the three... Judaism - The Old Testament was written by men inspired by God. The problem comes from those who refuse to believe the truth written in it. The majority of Jews rejected Christ as their Messiah, choosing to create alternate explanations for the passages that point to His coming. That doesn't make the scripture wrong, merely the people interpreting it. Christianity - Uses both the Old and New Testament, both written by men inspired by God. In both cases, people can and do misinterpret what was written, but it doesn't mean what was written was wrong. That is evident in the unity and consistency of the central message of the Bible, Jesus Christ and the redemption of a fallen world through Him. If not inspired by God, I find it hard to believe that a minimum of 40 authors over a period of 1500 years could have pulled off a compilation as unified as the Bible. That fact alone is a tremendous witness to the divine inspiration of the Bible. Are there some contradictions/tough passages to reconcile with each other? Sure. But, they don't call into question the central theme of redemption through Christ. Islam - The message is different in the Koran. Muhammad is the greatest prophet. Salvation is obtained by obeying rules and doing good works. Jesus Christ is just a prophet, not God in the flesh. They pick the parts of the Bible (old and new) that can be integrated into their religion, and discard the parts that conflict and can't be reconciled. For example, they would be all for the Sermon on the Mount, but completely discount any passages where Christ claims divinity. The denial of Christ's divinity is explicit in the Koran. There is no room for interpretation. Again, by default, both can't be correct, thus both cannot be inspired by God. God is not a God of confusion...He's not going to deliver conflicting messages. :thumb: Satan doesn't have to get you to believe in or follow him. He just has to make you not believe that Jesus is the son of God.
June 9, 200917 yr Perhaps consider broadening your horizons. Not really in the mood to get blown up, but thanks for the advice.
June 9, 200917 yr Not really in the mood to get blown up, but thanks for the advice.Preach on brother...:thumb: Maybe next we should consider gathering all Muslims in this country up and putting them into their own "camps"...for their safety of course.
June 9, 200917 yr Preach on brother...:thumb: Maybe next we should consider gathering all Muslims in this country up and putting them into their own "camps"...for their safety of course. They'd probably come up with some sort of Doomsday device, ala Dr. Strangelove and blow the whole world up, my Furher.....I mean President.
June 9, 200917 yr Not really in the mood to get blown up, but thanks for the advice. Don't you think that is a very narrow-minded view?
June 10, 200917 yr Don't you think that is a very narrow-minded view? Possibly it is, but you can't fault people when they take the "better safe than sorry" attitude. I realize all Pit Bulls aren't vicious man killers. But, I also don't make it a point to go up and pet one when I see it, because if I'm unlucky and that one happens to be a maniac, I'm going to end up dead or mangled. So, I'm cautious of Pit Bulls. Better safe than sorry. If the hippie, peace-loving Muslims are upset that they're being stereotyped, then I suggest they should be more pro-active about condemning their suicidal and fanatical brethren, instead of approving it by passively doing nothing. Many of the Muslims who proclaim Islam a peaceful religion won't publicly condemn terrorists. They want it both ways.
June 10, 200917 yr Possibly it is, but you can't fault people when they take the "better safe than sorry" attitude. I realize all Pit Bulls aren't vicious man killers. But, I also don't make it a point to go up and pet one when I see it, because if I'm unlucky and that one happens to be a maniac, I'm going to end up dead or mangled. So, I'm cautious of Pit Bulls. Better safe than sorry. If the hippie, peace-loving Muslims are upset that they're being stereotyped, then I suggest they should be more pro-active about condemning their suicidal and fanatical brethren, instead of approving it by passively doing nothing. Many of the Muslims who proclaim Islam a peaceful religion won't publicly condemn terrorists. They want it both ways. :thumb: I don't know why people find that so difficult to understand, but then again, maybe I'm not "open-minded."
June 10, 200917 yr We always want to "blame it on the other guy" but it is exactly this type of thinking that plays our part in this whole mess. As I was discussing with another poster, it's devisive and it's dangerous. As a christian, I refuse to be anti-muslim in thought or deed. For those that do want to be that way, what do you want the end result to be? The eradication of Islam from the world?
June 10, 200917 yr :thumb: I don't know why people find that so difficult to understand, but then again, maybe I'm not "open-minded." I happen to believe you are wrong. Is that so difficult to understand? But then, maybe I choose to live unafraid in the world.
June 10, 200917 yr We always want to "blame it on the other guy" but it is exactly this type of thinking that plays our part in this whole mess. As I was discussing with another poster, it's devisive and it's dangerous. As a christian, I refuse to be anti-muslim in thought or deed. For those that do want to be that way, what do you want the end result to be? The eradication of Islam from the world? How exactly could we go about doing that?
June 10, 200917 yr I happen to believe you are wrong. Is that so difficult to understand? But then, maybe I choose to live unafraid in the world. Wrong about what? :confused:
June 10, 200917 yr The main sticking point between Christians and non-Christians is not which God is worshipped, but whether Jesus Christ is accepted as the SON of God. Even Jewish and Islamic religions believe that Jesus was among the holiest of men, they believe he was a prophet. But they stop short as accepting Him as the Son of God. I think that is a good point. It is interesting that people who don't believe him to be the son of God still consider him to have been very holy due to the fact that, if he isn't who he claimed he was, then he would be a liar or a lunatic.
June 10, 200917 yr I think that is a good point. It is interesting that people who don't believe him to be the son of God still consider him to have been very holy due to the fact that, if he isn't who he claimed he was, then he would be a liar or a lunatic. There's a simple solution to that. They simply discard the statements of Jesus' divinity as a corruption of the texts by the writers of the New Testament. That way, they get to have their cake and eat it too.
June 10, 200917 yr We always want to "blame it on the other guy" but it is exactly this type of thinking that plays our part in this whole mess. As I was discussing with another poster, it's devisive and it's dangerous. As a christian, I refuse to be anti-muslim in thought or deed. For those that do want to be that way, what do you want the end result to be? The eradication of Islam from the world? Criticizing Muslims for not doing anything to address and condemn the terrorists who they claim are "hijacking" their "peaceful religion" is hardly anti-muslim. More accurately, it's the truth. And, as a Christian, yes, I want Islam eradicated from the world. That's inherent to the Christian faith. We want the world to accept Christ. We want all people to attain salvation through him, and thus, by default, all other religions eradicated. So, I ask you, as a Christian, is it your hope that Muslims would accept Christ or that they would remain devoted to the teachings of Muhammad and the Islamic faith? And, as a Christian, am I anti-Muslim if I choose the former?
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