May 4, 200917 yr This isn't your typical "abandoned house". This is a house that someone is trying to sell. There is a difference. Not when you're looking for a place to hang out and drink beer. If its empty, its empty. I'm not saying this is what Wall did. I'm just saying that kids hanging out in empty houses is not uncommon.
May 4, 200917 yr I do not understand why someone would do this. They are set for life barring injury if he just stays out of trouble!
May 4, 200917 yr I agree, it is not that big of a deal, however it just seems that he is becoming more of an issue then a solution. I just dont want UK to have that thorn in its side this year. 16th, I really don't think this is that big of a deal. It was a stupid mistake, nothing more.
May 4, 200917 yr If there's no forced entry and nothings missing how do you get charged with breaking and entering? He entered a place that wasn't his. No matter if it is locked or not. You just can't enter a persons home with out permission.
May 4, 200917 yr Ok. So now to the important question. Will this in any way change the opinion of most that Wall is UK bound? I say no.
May 4, 200917 yr My friends and I did all the time in high school. Bored with nothing else to do, find some construction site/abandonded property and just see whats there. That may not be the norm, but its not completely unrealistic. This charge in and of itself isn't terribly concerning. If there's more to it (drugs, theft, etc), then it completely changes the situation. I did...Sorry if that is not what you did, but yes, some do. Dont be so naive. Yeah people do that. However most of the time if people go to an abandoned place like that, then they usually are doing something besides just talking. So that is what I think Duece meant when he said don't be so naive to think that they were just there hanging out. I wouldn't be surprised if they were having a drink or something like that. I know it really just don't make sense to go to some abandoned place just to talk, its usually because your doing something that your probably not aloud to be doing.
May 4, 200917 yr Ok. So now to the important question. Will this in any way change the opinion of most that Wall is UK bound? I say no. It is all about winning! Nothing more nothing less. This is not a slam to UK as these things and worse are overlooked at EVERY major university. Nothing like looking like a caring and dutiful human being than by giving second chances. We certainly give more to athletes than non-athletes, but a second chance is deserved none the less. Why would anyone want to waste this talent in jail? or Junior College. He could bring someone a National Title. :deadhorse:
May 4, 200917 yr Yeah people do that. However most of the time if people go to an abandoned place like that, then they usually are doing something besides just talking. So that is what I think Duece meant when he said don't be so naive to think that they were just there hanging out. And you quoted two people who specifically did go to abandoned places and didn't do anything else, so you can't just assume Wall and his friends were doing something besides just haning out. They COULD have been drinking, but they COULD have just been hanging out. There is no evidence either way (other than none of them being charged with drinking/drugs/whatever). Don't claim anyone is naieve because they don't automatically jump to the conclusion that there was more illegal stuff going on that we don't know about.
May 4, 200917 yr That's all well in good if it really was an "abandoned house" but that isn't the case...
May 4, 200917 yr And you quoted two people who specifically did go to abandoned places and didn't do anything else, so you can't just assume Wall and his friends were doing something besides just haning out. They COULD have been drinking, but they COULD have just been hanging out. There is no evidence either way (other than none of them being charged with drinking/drugs/whatever). Don't claim anyone is naieve because they don't automatically jump to the conclusion that there was more illegal stuff going on that we don't know about. Again, it's not abandoned.... Which makes it even worse for Wall and Co....
May 4, 200917 yr Again, it's not abandoned.... Which makes it even worse for Wall and Co.... I think we're playing a semantics game. The house has been foreclosed on so "abandoned" isn't really that far off, correct?
May 4, 200917 yr I think we're playing a semantics game. The house has been foreclosed on so "abandoned" isn't really that far off, correct? To me, abandoned means boarded up, condemned, things of that nature. If a house is foreclosed, it just means someone couldn't pay for it, and now its back on the market to be sold. Big difference, IMO.... And it's trespassing at the very least in either case.
May 4, 200917 yr To me, abandoned means boarded up, condemned, things of that nature. If a house is foreclosed, it just means someone couldn't pay for it, and now its back on the market to be sold. Big difference, IMO.... And it's trespassing at the very least in either case. Its a structure with no one living there and nothing in it. Yes, its trespassing. And?
May 4, 200917 yr Man, whatever happened to that whole "innocent until proven guilty" line we were all fed with the whole Pitino situation....:idunno:
May 4, 200917 yr Its a structure with no one living there and nothing in it. Yes, its trespassing. And? And what? Don't see where you're going with this...
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