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Best Freshmen and Sophomores in the State?

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Doubtful...Pike is solid but the following TRUE freshman are all much bigger basketball prospects and better IMO:

 

6'3 Tamron Manning (Scott Co)

6'1 Jaylan Beckham (Lexcath)

6'0 Desmond Dorsey (J'town)

6'1 Isaiah Ivey (Scott Co)

5'10 Chris Harrison (Trinity)

6'0 Jordan Brewer (Larue County)

6'4 Daniel Ross (J'town)

6'0 Taylor Barnette (Lexington Christian)

6'1 Tanner Broughton (Knox Central)

6'0 Ryan Whetsel (Ashland)

6'2 BJ Combs (Hazard)

6'8 Lemon Gregory (Muhlenberg South)

6'6 Devan Rowan (North Oldham)

 

All are contributing much more than Pike is at Dixie.

 

I don't see Mike Terry or Corey Gregg on this list. Both big contributing freshmen this year....

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I don't see Mike Terry or Corey Gregg on this list. Both big contributing freshmen this year....

 

See my previous posts on page 2. He had already been mentioned by several others. Terry and Gregg are both nice players and will be tops in their region and state as they progress over the next few years.

See my previous posts on page 2. He had already been mentioned by several others. Terry and Gregg are both nice players and will be tops in their region and state as they progress over the next few years.

 

OOPS somehow missed the whole second page SORRY!!!

Here are my thoughts based on who I have actually seen play this year.....

 

Jaylan Beckham (Lexcath)

Tamron Manning (Scott Co)

Taylor Barnette (Lexington Christian)

Robbie Stenzel (Clark)

Vinnie Zollo (Clark)

Brandon Wilder (Henry Clay)

BJ Combs (Hazard)

Treg Setty (Mason)

King twins (Deming)

Ryan Fucci (Tates Creek)

Marcelllus Barksdale (Tates Creek)

Tim Knipp (Elliott)

 

This is a good list mentioning some of the best, but I think they could be switched depending on what kind of night a kid is having. IMO, its very difficult for anyone let alone a freshman or sophomore to play well consistently versus good competition.

BTW...isn't Terry a hold back as well?

 

No. He was home-schooled until he started at Rose Hill. I don't recall which grade he started going to school, but his mother didn't start his education until he was 6, rather than 5. He has progressed thru each grade since, without any hold backs. And I can assure you, he wasn't started late for sports.

No. He was home-schooled until he started at Rose Hill. I don't recall which grade he started going to school, but his mother didn't start his education until he was 6, rather than 5. He has progressed thru each grade since, without any hold backs. And I can assure you, he wasn't started late for sports.

 

Thanks I believe it was 4th grade? That would make him 16 right now....correct?

Thanks I believe it was 4th grade? That would make him 16 right now....correct?

 

I believe so.

IMO, it doesn't make sense to for a kid to give up their friends and stay back a year if they are making the grades and are doing fine socially and in sports. It is awfully hard to tell in 8th grade if someone will get an athletic scholarship. The chances of a kid going on to play college basketball is very minimal.

 

If you have aspirations of playing a sport in college then you better get use to make sacrafices such as those. The ordinary kid who isn't willing to do things like spend his summer weekends playing aau rather than being at home hanging out with friends usual won't get the opportunity to play college athletics. The kid who isn't willing to spend his extra time in the gym rather than being out with his friends probably is wasting his time staying back if it is for sports purposes. Sacraficing your extra time or another year of school without some of your friends is what makes special players special. Those are the ones who will get scholarships.

 

Let me add that I'm not trying to imply that you don't have to be a hold back to play college athletics. All I'm saying is that it will be a HUGE benefit in helping you do so. IMO, there are NO negatives to holding a kid back.

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I know that when he stoped dominating in football he repeated the seventh grade.

 

OUCH :eek: It must be all in the family because I heard Zeke's younger brother is also a holdback. Hey if it helps a kid get a college scholly and its legal then good for him. Only thing that drives me crazy is when people start rating these kids and you see the Top 10 and 8 of them are 1 1/2 yr older than most true freshman. Did I just say True? LOL

 

I know, I know....Im :deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:

If you have aspirations of playing a sport in college then you better get use to make sacrafices such as those. The ordinary kid who isn't willing to do things like spend his summer weekends playing aau rather than being at home hanging out with friends usual won't get the opportunity to play college athletics. The kid who isn't willing to spend his extra time in the gym rather than being out with his friends probably is wasting his time staying back if it is for sports purposes. Sacraficing your extra time or another year of school without some of your friends is what makes special players special. Those are the ones who will get scholarships.

 

Let me add that I'm not trying to imply that you don't have to be a hold back to play college athletics. All I'm saying is that it will be a HUGE benefit in helping you do so. IMO, there are NO negatives to holding a kid back.

 

I bet there are lots of disappointed kids who are held back only for sports and have put all their eggs in one basket. Playing AAU ball and spending weekends in gyms doesn't preclude you from having friends and socializing with your own age group. Sports surely isn't everything to life, and parents who hold their kid back can be taking a big gamble in the social development of their child for a small chance at a college scholarship. Of course, there are those that argue that being held back gives no advantage among physically mature high school athletes anyway...

Not sure Beckham is 6'1", I was told he is 5'11". Also I question Ivey's hieght at 6'1"

 

I would say Ivey maybe taller than 6-1 IMO. Hes also very long. As is Beckham. Both players are very long and athletic. Manning is having a great freshman year as well.

 

I would imagine that in 2 years when your talking about the best juniors over half the names we mentioned won't be mentioned in this thread.

OUCH :eek: It must be all in the family because I heard Zeke's younger brother is also a holdback. Hey if it helps a kid get a college scholly and its legal then good for him. Only thing that drives me crazy is when people start rating these kids and you see the Top 10 and 8 of them are 1 1/2 yr older than most true freshman. Did I just say True? LOL

 

I know, I know....Im :deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:

 

Well it might be Daddy's strategy because im pretty sure he was held back too

I bet there are lots of disappointed kids who are held back only for sports and have put all their eggs in one basket. Playing AAU ball and spending weekends in gyms doesn't preclude you from having friends and socializing with your own age group. Sports surely isn't everything to life, and parents who hold their kid back can be taking a big gamble in the social development of their child for a small chance at a college scholarship. Of course, there are those that argue that being held back gives no advantage among physically mature high school athletes anyway...

 

I was 17 when I graduated from high school and was fortunate enough to receive a basketball scholarship to a D1 school. I entered my frosh year with boys who were 19 and 20 years old. The first 2 years I had it pretty rough because I wasn't as mature , physically or mentally as boys who were two years older than I was. By the time I was a jr and sr in college and had matured, I was able to hold my own with any of them. I think your theory on social development doesn't hold water either. I wish my father had held me back in the grades. Speaking from experience. I don't think you know what you're talking about. I didn't hold my son bacK, but wish I had. He also played college ball and also graduated too young.

I was 17 when I graduated from high school and was fortunate enough to receive a basketball scholarship to a D1 school. I entered my frosh year with boys who were 19 and 20 years old. The first 2 years I had it pretty rough because I wasn't as mature , physically or mentally as boys who were two years older than I was. By the time I was a jr and sr in college and had matured, I was able to hold my own with any of them. I think your theory on social development doesn't hold water either. I wish my father had held me back in the grades. Speaking from experience. I don't think you know what you're talking about. I didn't hold my son bacK, but wish I had. He also played college ball and also graduated too young.

I was 17 when I graduated and was all-state in my sport and received a scholarship offer to a D2 school. I never felt any ill effects of being in the class I was supposed to be in. Besides, if a college feels that a person needs more maturing, they can always redshirt them then, right?

 

Is it always good to be a big fish in a small pond, so to speak? If you aren't going to play pro ball, what difference does it make whether you are not as physically mature as others as a freshman or sophomore? You shouldn't be expected to be anyway. Sports are fun and teach good life lessons but jobs and success in the working world are what matter the most in the long run except for the .03 percent of people who actually get to play professionally for a living.

I was 17 when I graduated from high school and was fortunate enough to receive a basketball scholarship to a D1 school. .

 

I was 17 when I graduated and was all-state in my sport and received a scholarship offer to a D2 school. .

 

I, too, was 17 when I graduated and received a $500 scholarship from a Jewish organization in Cincinnati despite me being a Catholic kid from Kentucky.

 

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