As the Republican Party begins to retool, rebuild and return to the "less government is best government" conservatism that makes America work, the first thing the GOP needs to do is to lock the RINOs out of the discussion. Heavily armed with an abundance of conservative attitude, my hunting buddies and I will provide security to ensure RINOs are kept downwind from the discussion. If allowed to participate, RINOs will continue to rot the Republican Party from within and diminish it in the eyes of the public. Enough is enough.

 

John McCain has been a RINO on campaign finance, immigration, global warming and other issues and look what happened to him. He had reached across the aisle so many times to cut deals with the liberals that he had to pick Governor Palin, a true conservative, to try and lure disenfranchised and disgusted conservatives back into the fold. Didn't work. Senator McCain was the wrong candidate at the right time. RINOs lose elections;

conservatives win them.

 

Should President-elect Obama implement his wrong-headed economic policies, our economy will continue to slide into the abyss and America's debt will continue to soar to unsustainable levels. Conservatives must hold the line at all costs and call out all RINOs who support President-elect Obama's economic kamikaze plan.

 

Make no mistake, conservative values and ideologies are embraced by Americans. The polls all indicate Americans are fed up with the Pelosi-led, do nothing congress, and do not support more government programs and control. Sounds to me like we have a conservative revolution brewing.[/Quote]Rino Season Is Now Open

 

 

Like him or hate him, he's entertaining. :lol:

Uncle Ted is the man. A little nuts, but still the man.

If the GOP holds to this kind of steadfastly right-wing ideology, they'll never win another election.

If the GOP holds to this kind of steadfastly right-wing ideology, they'll never win another election.

Really, this election was lost as soon as the most LEFT of the GOP candidates won the nomination. McCain is a good guy but he has tried too hard to be all things to all people, he ended up not really standing for anything. A true Conservative can win if they run as a physical Conservative, cut spending and taxes. Social Conservatives can win as well as long as they believe what they are saying and not just repeating far right talking points.

 

This guy was pretty conservative and was able to win handily.....

 

^fiscal not physical.....brain fart I guess.

If the GOP holds to this kind of steadfastly right-wing ideology, they'll never win another election.

 

Essentially the GOP has moved too far too the right on all the wrong issues (immigration, war, etc.) and has moved too far too the left on all the wrong issues (government spending). They need to flip it.

 

This way they can regain fiscal conservatives and possibly some libertarian voters.

Really, this election was lost as soon as the most LEFT of the GOP candidates won the nomination. McCain is a good guy but he has tried too hard to be all things to all people, he ended up not really standing for anything. A true Conservative can win if they run as a physical Conservative, cut spending and taxes. Social Conservatives can win as well as long as they believe what they are saying and not just repeating far right talking points.

Reagan started his career as a liberal Democrat. I would say what he became was closer to John McCain than any far-right radical. That gameplan is not going to get you anywhere in today's America. That's just the reality of where we are.

Essentially the GOP has moved too far too the right on all the wrong issues (immigration, war, etc.) and has moved too far too the left on all the wrong issues (government spending). They need to flip it.

 

This way they can regain fiscal conservatives and possibly some libertarian voters.

Too far to the right on immigration? I strongly disagree. One of the problems that McCain faced was his position on immigration was essentially almost identical to Obama's position, which is not that much different than George W. Bush's position.

 

A solid majority of Americans favor a border fence and fining employers who hire illegal immigrants. Neither party is paying attention to the majority's opinion on immigration. Moving to the left on illegal immigration would be a big mistake by Republicans, IMO.

 

Republicans should propose expanding legal immigration, combined with securing our borders and enforcing existing immigration laws.

 

I agree with you that Republicans need to return to their fiscal conservatism roots. The GOP has lost so much credibility on its claim to be the party of small government that it is going to be an uphill battle to win back the public trust on that issue.

Too far to the right on immigration? I strongly disagree. One of the problems that McCain faced was his position on immigration was essentially almost identical to Obama's position, which is not that much different than George W. Bush's position.

 

A solid majority of Americans favor a border fence and fining employers who hire illegal immigrants. Neither party is paying attention to the majority's opinion on immigration. Moving to the left on illegal immigration would be a big mistake by Republicans, IMO.

 

Republicans should propose expanding legal immigration, combined with securing our borders and enforcing existing immigration laws.

 

I agree with you that Republicans need to return to their fiscal conservatism roots. The GOP has lost so much credibility on its claim to be the party of small government that it is going to be an uphill battle to win back the public trust on that issue.

I agree about expanding legal immigration. As noted by Getslow, if the GOP wants to get the (very religious) Hispanic vote, they are going to have to ease up on immigration. Have Republicans been in favor of increased immigration? Because, to me, they have taken a far-right stance of deporting everyone illegal and shutting the borders down. To me, the center is cracking down on illegal immigration but working to legalize those who are here, as well as keeping legal immigration open.

I'm not sure that a solid majority of Americans want the fence. I will grant that the percentage has risen steadily since early 2006, when the numbers were something like 3:2 against.

 

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/Americas/July-08/Border-Fence-Looms-Over-Tiny-Texas-Town-.html

 

Nearly two years after President Bush signed the Secure Fence Act into law, American citizens are split virtually down the middle about building a fence along the U.S.-Mexican border. At present, just over half of Americans support the high-tech fence that would divide the United States from Mexico.

With the expansion of Government,my biggest fear is that we will soon learn just what a 'Stranglehold' is!!

If the GOP holds to this kind of steadfastly right-wing ideology, they'll never win another election.

McCain was too much of a RINO, that's why his own base deserted him.

I agree about expanding legal immigration. As noted by Getslow, if the GOP wants to get the (very religious) Hispanic vote, they are going to have to ease up on immigration. Have Republicans been in favor of increased immigration? Because, to me, they have taken a far-right stance of deporting everyone illegal and shutting the borders down. To me, the center is cracking down on illegal immigration but working to legalize those who are here, as well as keeping legal immigration open.

You must be watching a different group of Republicans than me on immigration. McCain, Bush, and Lindsey Graham joined with Ted Kennedy and other liberal Democrats to propose a large scale amnesty bill (an accurate description, whether its proponents like it or not) and all that stopped the bill was a massive fax and email campaign by conservatives.

 

I think is unfair to assume that Hispanic citizens are overwhelmingly in favor of illegal immigration. Their families immigrated here to escape Mexico not to remake the US in Mexico's image. If Republicans think that standing idly by and allowing all illegal immigrants to attain citizenship is going to win them votes in the Hispanic community they are mistaken. They need to advocate deportation of troublemakers along with a beefed up system to manage increased legal immigration.

 

A large part of the Hispanic community share conservative values with the Republican Party. The refusal of most Republican elected officials to address the problem of illegal immigration will not win Hispanic votes.

McCain was too much of a RINO, that's why his own base deserted him.

 

I don't think his base deserted him. He couldn't get those middle of the road folks, the undecideds, to fall on his side of the fence. It is also like Rick Warren said 'People vote their pocketbooks and in our current state, the economy trumped all.'

You must be watching a different group of Republicans than me on immigration. McCain, Bush, and Lindsey Graham joined with Ted Kennedy and other liberal Democrats to propose a large scale amnesty bill (an accurate description, whether its proponents like it or not) and all that stopped the bill was a massive fax and email campaign by conservatives.

 

I think is unfair to assume that Hispanic citizens are overwhelmingly in favor of illegal immigration. Their families immigrated here to escape Mexico not to remake the US in Mexico's image. If Republicans think that standing idly by and allowing all illegal immigrants to attain citizenship is going to win them votes in the Hispanic community they are mistaken. They need to advocate deportation of troublemakers along with a beefed up system to manage increased legal immigration.

 

A large part of the Hispanic community share conservative values with the Republican Party. The refusal of most Republican elected officials to address the problem of illegal immigration will not win Hispanic votes.

 

Then obviously I am unfamiliar with the immigration issue. I won't argue there. I can't tell if you are supporting or against the GOP's stance on immigration though.

 

At least we can agree that A) the GOP needs to address the issue B) We need to crack down on illegal immigration and C) Legal immigration is something to keep expand- it seems a lot of people have villainized all immigrants.

 

Whether that is the center or right, I don't know.