OK

 

I'll finally admit it. I don't know.

 

What the heck is RINO?

 

Republican In Name Only

So i guess that make me a DINO.

 

At least I admit it.

If the GOP holds to this kind of steadfastly right-wing ideology, they'll never win another election.

 

Really? The reason the Republicans lost the election is because the nominees were not conservative. I think we take it back if we get back to our roots.

Really? The reason the Republicans lost the election is because the nominees were not conservative. I think we take it back if we get back to our roots.

See post #28. :thumb:

Nope. He would have won as a moderate centrist. Instead, he allowed himself to be bullied by the radical right. He played up to the hard-core conservatives, which alienated the moderates, independents and right-leaning and disaffected democrats. As you said, very poor campaign decisions right there.

 

He also failed by not staying on a coherent message. Instead, he spent the campaign chasing the news and switching up his message. He should have found one weakness and pounded on it relentlessly.

 

He then shot himself in the foot by choosing Sarah Palin. I initially thought she was a great choice; but it quickly became apparent that her selection took away McCain's trump card -- the experience issue. He had that on Obama and neutralized it by choosing the inexperienced Palin. This allowed the Dems to seize the issue and turn it back around against McCain.

 

He was also the victim of bad luck when the economy went south. He could have played that issue more effectively as well. He allowed Obama to take the lead and look more capable of handling it.

 

And let's face it, from the beginning he was mired in the muck of the unpopular Bush presidency. He didn't effectively separate himself; and playing to the far-right only made it worse.

 

This just wasn't a good year to be a Republican.

McCain's problem was that he ran as a Republican. He dug himself too much of a hole and had to fight off other Republicans in the primary and exposed himself. The guy could have never won this race a moderate centrist because he had no fight in him. He let the media and Obama pound him on issue after issue and for the most part just took it. He then started to slip in the polls and got desperate. It wouldn't have mattered who he picked for a running mate, he was dead in the water from the start because he's a poor campaigner. Honestly, he made Dole look strong a campaigning. I would have much rather had McCain as our president, I voted for him, but I knew we were in trouble when he was the pick.

McCain's problem was that he ran as a Republican. He dug himself too much of a hole and had to fight off other Republicans in the primary and exposed himself. The guy could have never won this race a moderate centrist because he had no fight in him. He let the media and Obama pound him on issue after issue and for the most part just took it. He then started to slip in the polls and got desperate. It wouldn't have mattered who he picked for a running mate, he was dead in the water from the start because he's a poor campaigner. Honestly, he made Dole look strong a campaigning. I would have much rather had McCain as our president, I voted for him, but I knew we were in trouble when he was the pick.

 

Ironic, the guy who tells me that my Barr vote was a waste claims that he knows his guy had virtually know shot.

Nope. He would have won as a moderate centrist. Instead, he allowed himself to be bullied by the radical right. He played up to the hard-core conservatives, which alienated the moderates, independents and right-leaning and disaffected democrats. As you said, very poor campaign decisions right there.

 

He also failed by not staying on a coherent message. Instead, he spent the campaign chasing the news and switching up his message. He should have found one weakness and pounded on it relentlessly.

 

He then shot himself in the foot by choosing Sarah Palin. I initially thought she was a great choice; but it quickly became apparent that her selection took away McCain's trump card -- the experience issue. He had that on Obama and neutralized it by choosing the inexperienced Palin. This allowed the Dems to seize the issue and turn it back around against McCain.

 

He was also the victim of bad luck when the economy went south. He could have played that issue more effectively as well. He allowed Obama to take the lead and look more capable of handling it.

 

And let's face it, from the beginning he was mired in the muck of the unpopular Bush presidency. He didn't effectively separate himself; and playing to the far-right only made it worse.

 

This just wasn't a good year to be a Republican.

 

:thumb:

...and had to fight off other Republicans in the primary and exposed himself. He let the media and Obama pound him...

Dang! I have got to start watching more CNN! :eek:

Ironic, the guy who tells me that my Barr vote was a waste claims that he knows his guy had virtually know shot.

Know shot? :lol:

 

I did say he would have been better than Obama.

:thumb:

Oh, NOW you agree with each other.

Dang! I have got to start watching more CNN! :eek:

Well, I will say McCain is no dictater.

Well, I will say McCain is no dictater.

Beat me to it. Spelled it wrong...but beat me to it.

Beat me to it. Spelled it wrong...but beat me to it.

:banana:

Nope. He would have won as a moderate centrist. Instead, he allowed himself to be bullied by the radical right. He played up to the hard-core conservatives, which alienated the moderates, independents and right-leaning and disaffected democrats. As you said, very poor campaign decisions right there.

 

He also failed by not staying on a coherent message. Instead, he spent the campaign chasing the news and switching up his message. He should have found one weakness and pounded on it relentlessly.

 

He then shot himself in the foot by choosing Sarah Palin. I initially thought she was a great choice; but it quickly became apparent that her selection took away McCain's trump card -- the experience issue. He had that on Obama and neutralized it by choosing the inexperienced Palin. This allowed the Dems to seize the issue and turn it back around against McCain.

 

He was also the victim of bad luck when the economy went south. He could have played that issue more effectively as well. He allowed Obama to take the lead and look more capable of handling it.

 

And let's face it, from the beginning he was mired in the muck of the unpopular Bush presidency. He didn't effectively separate himself; and playing to the far-right only made it worse.

 

This just wasn't a good year to be a Republican.

 

I think it was apparent McCain was far more interested in being "liked" by the left (and his old media buddies that dropped him like a bad habit) afterwards, than winning the election?? I agree with much of what you said, and that in the face of Bush's lack of success and the economic collapse that he probably had little chance; but he simply refused to attack Obama on anything with any conviction!!

 

When he did question Obama's lack of experience, accomplishments, questionable associates, etc.; he did it almost apologetically and so unconvincing, that it merely fired up Obama's base (and his media backers) and left the "undecideds" scratching their heads?? He and his advisors tried to turn Palin into his "attack dog" and even further confused even her backers that had reinvigorated their campaign initially?? Horribly run campaign vs. a masterfully run effort, that utilized all means available in today's largely unregulated election environment!!

Know shot? :lol:

 

I did say he would have been better than Obama.

 

Darn it. Thirsty Thursdays.....

 

FWIW, Barr would have been better than Obama as well.