I'll tell you folks, this is another example of why I'm no fan of McCain. The guy is running a boring, uninspiring, lifeless campaign and actually expects to win. If he plans on running this country the way he's running his campaign, we're in trouble should he happen to win.

Don't believe me, just ask Ben Stein.

 

"Mr. McCain is running the absolute most pathetic campaign I have ever seen in my whole life," Stein said in his unmistakable monotone delivery. "His campaign is just heartbreakingly pathetic. He is a very impressive guy. He is a brave guy, but he is running the most lackluster campaign I have ever seen in my entire life. I would have thought Bob Dole's campaign would have set a record for poor campaigns, but this one is even worse. I mean it is shocking."[/Quote]

 

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I agree. McCain seems to be running his campaign like the race is his to lose but he is trailing in every poll. The comparison to the Dole campaign is very appropriate. Dole had a great, sarcastic wit, and he only started campaigning as himself after the election was already lost. He was so afraid of being painted as mean-spirited that he stopped being Bob Dole.

 

McCain just seems to be waiting for Obama to make a mistake or the media to get tired of carrying his water. Obama will (and has) made mistakes but he will not lose the enthusiastic support of the liberal mainstream media.

I was thinking the same thing last night while watching campaign coverage. Both CNN and FoxNews would play a 5-10 minute clip of one candidate, then switch to the other. There was a huge difference between the energy at each campaign site. Additionally, Obama's background was part of the crowd. McCain's background appeared to be a blank blue background. Obama's rhetoric was loud and excited, while McCain's was quiet and subdued.

 

Obama's lead in the polls is small. If McCain could put some excitement into his campaign, then he stands to gain more of the independent and undecided voters.

McCain's campaign has lacked the necessary imagination and zeal needed to defeat an opponent like Obama. His newly found penchant for negative campaigning has also been added to my disappointments.

McCain is actually worse when he is reading from a prepared speech. Its very uncomfortable to watch.

 

I used to be a much bigger McCain guy when he was being labeled as RINO. However, he has tried to so hard to placate the extremists in his party that he's not the guy many of us came to like.

I was thinking the same thing last night while watching campaign coverage. Both CNN and FoxNews would play a 5-10 minute clip of one candidate, then switch to the other. There was a huge difference between the energy at each campaign site. Additionally, Obama's background was part of the crowd. McCain's background appeared to be a blank blue background. Obama's rhetoric was loud and excited, while McCain's was quiet and subdued.

 

Obama's lead in the polls is small. If McCain could put some excitement into his campaign, then he stands to gain more of the independent and undecided voters.

To be fair, if McCain attracted any crowds I'm sure he would make sure to get them into the shot.

To be fair, if McCain attracted any crowds I'm sure he would make sure to get them into the shot.

 

:lol: Pretty funny.

To be fair, if McCain attracted any crowds I'm sure he would make sure to get them into the shot.

 

Zing!

 

Nicely done! :thumb:

I'll tell you folks, this is another example of why I'm no fan of McCain. The guy is running a boring, uninspiring, lifeless campaign and actually expects to win. If he plans on running this country the way he's running his campaign, we're in trouble should he happen to win.

Don't believe me, just ask Ben Stein.

 

 

 

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I was interested, until you included Ben Stein......

McCain - boring!!!!!!!!!

Ben Stein is a good one to talk about being boring. I would rather watch metal rust that listen to him...it would be more interesting!

I'll tell you folks, this is another example of why I'm no fan of McCain. The guy is running a boring, uninspiring, lifeless campaign and actually expects to win. If he plans on running this country the way he's running his campaign, we're in trouble should he happen to win.

Don't believe me, just ask Ben Stein.

 

 

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While I can understand the need at times for a charismatic President, at this point I want a knowledgeable, experienced President to lead our country. With our current challenges, I'll trade boring for experienced in a heart beat.

 

 

I (and I thought many others on here) have been clamoring for a long time for a moderate to get elected to try to unify this country; for someone that can reach across the aisle to work with the other party to find consensus; to decrease the influence of the extreme element in both parties; and to practice the "united we stand, divided we fall" maxim. Honestly you can't move forward when you are fighting yourself in place. How many times have you read in response to a post that we need to elect a more centrist President: that will never happen as the primaries by their nature result in only the extreme candidates of the parties getting nominated? A bunch, a whole bunch. Well, we now have that chance if we want to take it.

 

Which is why I'm somewhat surprised I guess that more people aren't supporting McCain. Then again, maybe I'm not surprised. I hope you are not offended RTS, but I consider you one of the more extreme right wingers on here. So in retrospect, I'm not all that surprised that you have real issues with McCain. I can only hope that people like you and the other people on the far right will look at McCain and say he's the lesser of two evils, and hope that all the moderates in this country will agree with me in thinking that for the first time in an extremely long time we have an opportunity to vote for someone that isn't the poster child of Limbaugh, Savage and Rove . Not only is such a Republican poster child extremely unelectable in 08, but such a person frankly in my opinion is not what this country needs at this point. We have become a very divided and partisan country. We must come together before we can move forward.

 

And McCain, as boring and uninspiring as he may seem to you and Mr Stein to be, is that moderate who can work with the other side. His Senatorial record proves it.

 

I don't expect you and those that I consider to be extremists from both parties to agree with me in my thinking. Rather, I expect you all to continue to attack the candidates with a ferocity that to me is rather saddening. Rather, I'm hoping the moderates and centrists on here and in this country will carefully deliberate when they go into the voting booth what is more important: (1) a supposedly boring but highly experienced candidate with a proven record of being willing to put what he thinks is the right decision ahead of what the Republican Party wants him to do (even if that means hurting his standing in the party); or (2) a very charismatic but very inexperienced candidate with a proven record of supporting the most liberal agenda of the Democratic Party. That is what this election boils down to in a nut shell. Nothing more; nothing less.

 

And no one need tell me that Obama has become more moderate in his stances while on the stump. Honestly, I believe little of what is said on the stump. The best judge of his positions, in my opinion, is how he voted, not what he is currently saying.

 

 

I (and I thought many others on here) have been clamoring for a long time for a moderate to get elected to try to unify this country;

 

LN, I'm in the group that for years took guff because of supporting someone that was a RINO. However, Sen. McCain has not stayed true to his beliefs and is now trying to placate the extremists who want no part of compromise.

LN, I'm in the group that for years took guff because of supporting someone that was a RINO. However, Sen. McCain has not stayed true to his beliefs and is now trying to placate the extremists who want no part of compromise.

 

Clyde, based on your posts, I know you are smart enough not to believe what candidates say on the stump. Both candidates are trying to placate various voting blocks. While I wish McCain wasn't doing so, honestly in that regard, he's just a typical politician and no different or worse than Obama who is doing the same thing. I continue to assert that the best judge of what a President will be like and what he will do in office is not what he says on the trail, but what he has done and how he has voted prior to hitting the trail. And using that standard, there can be ZERO doubt which of the two candidates is more beholden to the extreme element of his party, and which candidate is more likely to do what he thinks is right without regard to what the party wants him to do.

 

Now, I am not so naive to think that either candidate is going to be able to totally ignore his party's wishes if elected. But I analyze it this way (which may be wrong, but I don't think so): if McCain gets elected it will be on the strength of moderates with some help from the extreme R's. As such, McCain will be able to say he received a mandate of moderation and make decisions and justify decisions accordingly. On the other hand, for Obama to get elected, it will be based on the strength of the more liberal element of the voters with some help of the moderates. He has campaigned on a mandate of change and I think he'll be boxed in to make dramatic changes of the liberal type.

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Clyde, based on your posts, I know you are smart enough not to believe what candidates say on the stump. Both candidates are trying to placate various voting blocks. While I wish McCain wasn't doing so, honestly in that regard, he's just a typical politician and no different or worse than Obama who is doing the same thing. I continue to assert that the best judge of what a President will be like and what he will do in office is not what he says on the trail, but what he has done and how he has voted prior to hitting the trail. And using that standard, there can be ZERO doubt which of the two candidates is more beholden to the extreme element of his party, and which candidate is more likely to do what he thinks is right without regard to what the party wants him to do.

 

Now, I am not so naive to think that either candidate is going to be able to totally ignore his party's wishes if elected. But I analyze it this way (which may be wrong, but I don't think so): if McCain gets elected it will be on the strength of moderates with some help from the extreme R's. As such, McCain will be able to say he received a mandate of moderation and make decisions and justify decisions accordingly. On the other hand, for Obama to get elected, it will be based on the strength of the more liberal element of the voters with some help of the moderates. He has campaigned on a mandate of change and I think he'll be boxed in to make dramatic changes of the liberal type.

 

That's the big question: Which McCain are we going to get?