You'd be surprised how many guys like that come into my store and ask for a job.

 

What store do you own Pat?

You just know if Crock loses, racism will be the overwhelming outcry.

 

Whos Crock?

Whos Crock?

 

As you may have already guessed, just a juvenile play on Obama's first name. Interestingly, it was Mccain who took the high road when all the fuss was being made about Obama's middle name. The high road isn't the one always taken, however.

Personally I couldn't care less if our president was MARTIAN as long as he/she:

 

1: Upholds and defends the constitution..(Dems...leave the 2nd alone and Reps...leave the 4th alone..they are there to protect our freedoms.BACK OFF)

2: Realizes that there IS such as thing as TOO much government and that when the government tries to cure all ills,it usually fails. Just ask the Romans.

3: Protects our interests without being so aggressive as to endanger them...if we can't justify war with someone,then don't attack them.

4: Turns a DEAF ear to special interest groups...both LEFT and RIGHT and allows businesses both large and ESPECIALLY small to flourish. If we can't work we can't pay taxes...and if the taxes are too high we can't spend money on anything else.

 

 

In my time (I am 50),I have watched our candidates go from standing for what they believe in to bending to the will,day to day,of every fringe group that has an agenda. And invariably,those candidates,both left and right,get reminded from time to time,that there are those of us still out here who believe that this country is the greatest country in the world and that we don't need the UN,the EU,large global (or domestic) corporations,the EPA,etc.,etc., to tell us what we need to be doing.

Edited June 23, 200818 yr by owsleyking

I find it fascinating and eye opening reading some of the posts in this thread.

 

Corn roles is a hair style that has been a tradition in the black community for generations. My mom braided my hair when I was a little baby and still had them until they were lost somehow. The hairstyle didn't become mainstream until Bo Derirck wore them in the movie "10".

 

I've worn my hat either backwards or to the side since I was in high school back in the 1970's. While I don't have any tatoos, the reason being, I promised my dad I would never get one. There's a guy who is a very good chemical engineer at my plant who has many tatoos. That didn't stop him from get the job.

 

I do like chewing on straws. It was a habit I developed when I was younger after drinking a good tasting shake off of the Mr. Softee truck.

 

All I'm saying we shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

I find it fascinating and eye opening reading some of the posts in this thread.

 

Corn roles is a hair style that has been a tradition in the black community for generations. My mom braided my hair when I was a little baby and still had them until they were lost somehow. The hairstyle didn't become mainstream until Bo Derirck wore them in the movie "10".

 

I've worn my hat either backwards or to the side since I was in high school back in the 1970's. While I don't have any tatoos, the reason being, I promised my dad I would never get one. There's a guy who is a very good chemical engineer at my plant who has many tatoos. That didn't stop him from get the job.

 

I do like chewing on straws. It was a habit I developed when I was younger after drinking a good tasting shake off of the Mr. Softee truck.

 

All I'm saying we shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

 

 

:thumb:

I find it fascinating and eye opening reading some of the posts in this thread.

 

Corn roles is a hair style that has been a tradition in the black community for generations. My mom braided my hair when I was a little baby and still had them until they were lost somehow. The hairstyle didn't become mainstream until Bo Derirck wore them in the movie "10".

 

I've worn my hat either backwards or to the side since I was in high school back in the 1970's. While I don't have any tatoos, the reason being, I promised my dad I would never get one. There's a guy who is a very good chemical engineer at my plant who has many tatoos. That didn't stop him from get the job.

 

I do like chewing on straws. It was a habit I developed when I was younger after drinking a good tasting shake off of the Mr. Softee truck.

 

All I'm saying we shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

:thumb: Agreed 100%. But there are people (of all races) who dress a certain way in order to project a certain image. But you are right that judgment should be withheld.

As you may have already guessed, just a juvenile play on Obama's first name. Interestingly, it was Mccain who took the high road when all the fuss was being made about Obama's middle name. The high road isn't the one always taken, however.

Didn't see you once call it juvenile the dozens of times on here that McSame was used. :sssh:

Didn't see you once call it juvenile the dozens of times on here that McSame was used. :sssh:

 

I believe both are juvenile but still funny!

I find it fascinating and eye opening reading some of the posts in this thread.

 

Corn roles is a hair style that has been a tradition in the black community for generations. My mom braided my hair when I was a little baby and still had them until they were lost somehow. The hairstyle didn't become mainstream until Bo Derirck wore them in the movie "10".

 

I've worn my hat either backwards or to the side since I was in high school back in the 1970's. While I don't have any tatoos, the reason being, I promised my dad I would never get one. There's a guy who is a very good chemical engineer at my plant who has many tatoos. That didn't stop him from get the job.

 

I do like chewing on straws. It was a habit I developed when I was younger after drinking a good tasting shake off of the Mr. Softee truck.

 

All I'm saying we shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

 

I understand everything you're saying, and there are sayings for everything. Your don't judge a book by it's cover is a good one. The first impression is a lasting one is another. My stepson used to dress like that before he went in the Army and I always told him he looked like a punk and that's how others would percieve him. The first time back off leave we're going to a restaurant and there's this kid outside dressed just the way he used too. You'll never guess what his comment was.

I find it fascinating and eye opening reading some of the posts in this thread.

 

Corn roles is a hair style that has been a tradition in the black community for generations. My mom braided my hair when I was a little baby and still had them until they were lost somehow. The hairstyle didn't become mainstream until Bo Derirck wore them in the movie "10".

 

I've worn my hat either backwards or to the side since I was in high school back in the 1970's. While I don't have any tatoos, the reason being, I promised my dad I would never get one. There's a guy who is a very good chemical engineer at my plant who has many tatoos. That didn't stop him from get the job.

 

I do like chewing on straws. It was a habit I developed when I was younger after drinking a good tasting shake off of the Mr. Softee truck.

 

All I'm saying we shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

 

There are exceptions to every stereotype, which is why, of course, you shouldn't judge a book by its cover. But inversely, there are many valid reasons why certain stereotypes exist. In fact, such is the case that there are even stereotypes and the cops use profiling to begin with. You own a store and you get robbed 10 times by guys wearing their hats on sideways, weaing baggy pants and sporting tatoos, its only human nature that as a store owner you get on edge every time someone with those features comes into your store.

 

If you can honestly tell me that you, as an African American, wouldn't have some initial adverse impressions if a young white man with a skin head hair cut and a swastiza tatoo on his arm walked into your store, or approached you on the street late at night as you walked with your wife , you are an amazing person. In fact, some might consider you as genetically "weak". As animals, our genetics force us to make quick initial decisions as part of the fight or flight reaction. When we see something that our brain tells us is a threatening situation, we react. And those animals that quickly identify threatening situations and determine fight or flight are the the ones with the genes that survive and reproduce.

 

Based on situations that we have experienced or been told about, our brain associates tatoos, baggy pants, hats worn in improper angles, etc. with gangs or punks. No doubt as such styles have become more prevalent, the reaction is not as strong with some people, because the stereotype weakens and the brain no longers associates those things with a threat. But with other people, it is still very present. And the threat reaction gets intensified each time they experience, observe or hear off someone getting mugged, killed or robbed by someone with those features.

 

While we can hope that, as we have become more civilized, the brain becomes more "understanding" of different situations and properly sorts out the real threats from the "just different cultures". But we have to be realistic. I have a carry conceal permit. If I have a late dinner in downtown Cincinnati which calls for me to walk several blocks back to my car after dark, you can bet that my pistol is within easy access. When I see a bunch of young men that my brain associates with a threat walking towards me, my fight or flight reaction kicks in. I often cross the street. If the young men cross the street after I have, you can dang well bet that my hand is on my pistol. Why do I have such a reaction? I truly don't think its a racist reaction, as I do the same when white young men are in the group. Rather its based on news reports of groups of young men with those features robbing, mugging and attacking people on the streets after dark. Not everyone with corn rows, tatoos, baggy pants and wearing their hats backwards or sideways is a threat, but why chance it if you perceive a threat?

 

By the way, I'm not saying at all that it is okay to be discriminatory or racist. Not even close. Just that people of all races need to be understanding of the fact that certain actions causes people of other races to have certain reactions. Years ago, people thought of America as the melting pot and tried to fit in. My grandparents were all from Germany and came over here before WWI. When WWI started, they realized that displaying their German heritage was very threatening to others so they stopped doing so, in order to fit in and be accepted as Americans. Today, people want to keep their racial or ethnic culture and proudly display it. I understand that. But they want to act, speak and dress differently, while at the same time complain that they are looked at or treated differently. I love my German heritage, but I don't wear Lederhosen to the office and I don't insist that I have the right to only speak German in my office or demand that my bank put their advertisements and forms in German. I want to fit in. I want to be considered an American first and foremost, not a German. And if that means giving up part of my German culture, so be it.

 

Sorry for the rambling post and I hope you weren't offended by it. Not trying to be offensive. Just explaining how this 50 year, white, educated male looks at this issue.

My young friend "Bias" works both ways. My guess many will vote for a certain candidate simply because his is a certain race, and my guess is that percentage is even larger than 30%.

 

I can remember when JFK ran for President, and most Catholics regardless if they like his policies or not, simply voted for him because he and they were both Catholics.

 

Personally I will vote based on whom I think will lead our Country the best, regardless of their race.

 

The difference between JFK's situation and Barack's is that I would be willing to bet that the "Catholic Democrat vote" had been somewhat split before 1960, and that JFK got a significant (though modest) boost from the Catholic vote.

 

Currently, the Democrats have always had (in recent history) "The Black Vote". I'm not sure Barack will increase that percentage significantly.

You think it is more than 3 in 10?

 

 

 

Trust me, there is absolutely no doubt about it.

 

As I mentioned once before, in my city and most of my surrounding cities, Barack Obama would have no chance in a local race against me.

I believe both are juvenile but still funny!

I think neither are juvenile, it's just people having a little fun. Some people get a little too PC anymore.

Didn't see you once call it juvenile the dozens of times on here that McSame was used. :sssh:

 

I must have missed those dozens of times.

 

Ot of curiosity, I did run an advanced search on "McSame". There was a total of five times that the term was used - and yes, it is just as juvenile as "Crock". Not counting this thread, the term was cited once in the "D-Day in Pennsylvania" thread, once in the "Obama's Tax Talk Evasion" thread, once in the "McCain has Obama's Back" thread, once in the "Who Would you Trust in the Case of Another Terrorist Attack" thread, and once in the "Obama Blasts McCain" thread. There were four additional instances of the initial "McSame" reference being quoted in another post. Five references and four posts quoting from the originals.

 

Kind of reminds me of Mr. Rooney - Ferris Bueller's principal.

 

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