Not true. You are becoming a man/woman your whole life. What makes college different is if you move away from all your friends and have to develop new friendships. Depending on the strength of the friendships in high school they will either remain or deteriorate. If your high school friendships were superficial, and not strong you will probably forget about those people all together. However, if you actually had strong bonds from high school, no frat can replace them. Its a matter of your most recent friendships, and your ability to replace people that aren't important to you, not a matter of growing up.

 

So you mean to tell me that the 4 years after high school, when you are 100% on your own for the first time, wasn't the time that you found out who you really were? And in high school you are friends with people moreso because you have to be, unless you want to be an outcast and drive yourself crazy. The majority of people on this board are from small towns and no exactly what I mean by this. You are limited in the number of people that you meet and are around. In no way am I bashing my high school buddies, at all. I still stay in contact with the majority of them and brought them around the fraternity guys during my college days. Which, they got along great with and came back to visit mutiple times and were welcomed each time with open arms by everyone there. Some even "hooked up" with a few lady friends on their visits. The friends you make in college are the people who see you everyday of your college experience. You laugh, you cry, and you build friendships that just aren't explainable. I would recommend joining a fraternity to anyone, but I would never think negatively and stereotype someone for not being in one. That is the perception that alot of non-Greek people have. Unfortunately, there are always a few bad apples that make Greek life look bad and these are the acts that most people see. Like everything else in life, people usually notice the bad, not the good.

:confused:Then quite possibly something has changed because when I attended in the late 60s and early 70s there were no frats and it remained that way when my niece went in the late 80s early 90s.

There are and have been almost as long as the University has been there.

 

They are not, ummmm, public.

 

But I assure you they are there.

I was an SAE at Morehead back in the day. I didn't think I would join a fraternity but it was one of the best things I ever did. I stayed close with the guys I grew up with since 1st grade. I'm 33 now and talked to 3 of them last week. I made very close friends that were in my dorm the first year and keep in touch with them. I have talked to probably 4 of the guys that were in my fraternity this past week. My wedding consisted of 4 guys I've known since 1st grade and 4 that were in my fraternity.

I think a lot of it depends on where you go to school. If I had gone to Eastern (known as a bar school) then I might not have joined. If you are at Morehead you had 1 place to go out and that was 1 night a week. The rest of the time it was house party's etc. We did our share of that stuff but going out to the fraternity house was like being at a great bar with all of your friends. If you go that route then it's easy to say that people that didn't join a fraternity paid for their friends by going to bars to meet people and spent WAY more money! We also won a national communitty service award while I was there. We won intramurals several times for the year etc. Lifelong friends, networking, doors open that wouldn't have been, meeting girls etc etc. I also got paid to go to a leadership school in Chicago for a week with perks like free Cubs tickets etc. There was a lot too it that outsiders just can't understand. There are a lot of punks in fraternity's and there are a lot that aren't in them. It's easy to stereotype but they all aren't the same.

 

Stick happens to be one of my good friends and brothers :thumb:

For those who are so staunch against fraternities, I simply say "To each their own"... some personalities are just not suited for Greek life, and in no way is this a slant. Greek life is very demanding and oftenvery time consuming, I will never judge a person because they chose not to join a fraternity or a sorority,,, but I also have found that usually those who are the most vocal against Greek life are the one's who truly have no clue what it is really all about.

 

Greek life truly is what you make of it... some people truly defy the stereotypes, but for ever "Frat Boy" I ever heard of for failing out of school, I could also name 5 more guys not associated with a fraternity who failed out for the same reasons. For me, I honestly cannot even imagine how different my college career would have been without joining a fraternity, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

 

I think anyone who ever went to college will agree that the best lessons you learn didn't come from a textbook, it came from your ability to handle social situations, network, balance time, and take on new roles and responsibilities that strech your comfort zone. You could easily get all of this without being in a fraternity, but in my case it made it easier to have it all presented to me.

 

Just my two cents on the subject....

 

Great post and sums up this entire conversation.

I'll be sure to tell Lefty, Kent, Bart, Bob, and Derrick you said that......:lol:

 

HAHA... Yeah I know, I don't want Bart to bench press me though..:lol:

You're right, its the same as FBLA or the Foreign Language club:lol:

 

True statement, but we don't have a thread thats has FBLA members or Foreign Language that take "outsider" comments sooo personally. :thumb:

 

There will always be girls that chase letters, its not such a bad deal if your on the good end of it though lol

 

Always worked for me:thumb:

 

 

^ Typical frat boy comments. Like I've stated before, their cocky and self centered and these comments basically sell themselves.

Anyone have any advice on which fraternity to join at UK? Or have any thoughts on any of them? Good or bad.

Anyone have any advice on which fraternity to join at UK? Or have any thoughts on any of them? Good or bad.

 

Want mine?

Anyone have any advice on which fraternity to join at UK? Or have any thoughts on any of them? Good or bad.

 

I'll have to put a plug in for SAE :thumb:

True statement, but we don't have a thread thats has FBLA members or Foreign Language that take "outsider" comments sooo personally. :thumb:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Are you in college right now?

Are you in college right now?

 

Yes I am.

I'll have to put a plug in for SAE :thumb:

 

Is that what u were? I know that the SAEs at UK have a 13 million dollar fraternity house, but I heard they are the worst for hazing, cages in the basement.....

Is that what u were? I know that the SAEs at UK have a 13 million dollar fraternity house, but I heard they are the worst for hazing, cages in the basement.....

 

I'm not buying that cages in the basement stuff. I would advise you to check them out and make the call yourself. I would advise you to check out a couple of others, as well. You'll know which one you feel the most comfortable in. I am an SAE and it is a great fraternity, but ultimately its what feels best for the individual. For me, it was SAE.

HAHA What are you talkin about, the fraternity I joined was horrible until I came in... :sssh::lol:J/K

 

Speakin of which, April 19th is Pig Roast... which really don't matter... but April 18th is when we will all be reuniting at Keeneland. I am goinna fly in Thursday I think.

 

The pig roast and softball tournament was awesome. I was a Sigma Pi at MSU and we attended this event at EKU every year it was always a great time.

Yes I am.

 

OK I don't want this to sound sarcastic or condescending, so please don't take that as the message I am attempting to convey.

 

But, I am willing to bet that when you take all your classes this semester into account you probably have a member of nearly every fraternity represented. I'd like to propose you take time to just start up a casual conversation with at least one member of each of those chapters. I also propose you attend at least 3 or 4 of the community service events that are open to the general public.

 

If you honestly come back and say "Just as I thought, they are all arrogant snobs and everyone of them are just alike" then I will never get up on my soap box in this subject again. But, I have a strong feeling this may change your opinions that some of these guys aren't simply party animals, or guys who think your toilets don't stink... heck you might even make a few new friends along the way that previously you would have disqualified because they ahd letters on their chest.

 

As I said, this not intended to come off as me being condescending.