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Sooner I can honestly say that one of the best things that I got out of fraternity life was becoming close friends with people from so many walks of life. We had a couple of

4ft 11inch guys that produced some of the best memories that I can remember. We had 300+lb guys that were hilarious. We had guys from hollars in Eastern KY that were as genuine as they come. We had white guys, black guys, heck we even had a guy from Greece named Stratus! There were guys that were born into the silver spoon and some that were broke as a joke. There were times that I thought people went overboard with our fraternity and times that I didn't think they respected it enough. There were times that I didn't want to go to this meeting or that meeting and times that I had to get after guys for missing everything. The great thing was that we dealt with a lot of real world issues (money managment, due process, learning to compramise with each other on important issues, having a vision and goals to get there etc). I made a lot of friends outside the fraternity but being in that structure forced me to be around a lot of people that I probably wouldn't have hung around and I think it taught me a lot about understanding how to walk in other people's shoes a lot more. It also opened my eyes to a lot of things I wouldn't have seen had I not joined just because of the backgrounds a lot of my friends came from. There were punks in our fraternity just like there are punks that aren't greek. I can honestly say that while I was in school the majority of the leaders on campus that made things happen for the students were Greek. It's easy to stereotype but until you have lived it you won't understand it.

This discussion is really broad because it is a stereotype. Fraternities differ at every university and every fraternity at each university is a little different. They even change over the years. The fraternity I was in is A LOT different than it was when I was there.

 

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Agree with everything you said.

Bet your dorm friends didn't raise tens of thousands of dollars for charity each semester either. So make philantrophy item #4.

 

Am I misreading this or did you intend it to sound like it opens the door for donating to charity? Because if that is the case then you've missed out on a huge phase of life. The option to help the needy and the sick is available to anyone, even young kids.

^ sure it is...but being a fraternity, helps to bring it on a much larger scale, while not putting the individual out in a way that they couldn't come through.

Am I misreading this or did you intend it to sound like it opens the door for donating to charity? Because if that is the case then you've missed out on a huge phase of life. The option to help the needy and the sick is available to anyone, even young kids.

 

Your right, I could contribute on my own, but me donating a few can goods to a local food pantry around Thanksgiving really doesn't make much difference, however, as a faternity, my brothers and I were able to just about fill a semi trailer. This particular food drive is conducted nationally by my fraternity. Last year our chapters collected over 4 million pounds of food.

Thats a very true arguement. I will agree with you that I do indeed have a fraternity member in alot of my classes (some more than others), and yes I have talked to a few of them before about what their program is all about.

 

Now Im not sure if I was talking to The Grand Wizard or a new member on a free trial membership or what have you, but each of them came off in an extreme arrogant way, as if to say Im not better off if I don't join their organization. Arrogance is pet peeve of mine so naturally once I heard them say all this, I immediately tuned them out and closed the book on the subject.

 

Arrogance and Confidence can sometimes be confused... and spare me your "typical" frat boy comment. Show me ANY guy who is college age that isn't interested in girls and I'll show you a guy thats interested in guys(not thats theres anything wrong with that and many fraternities have homosexuals in them), plain and simple!

Your right, I could contribute on my own, but me donating a few can goods to a local food pantry around Thanksgiving really doesn't make much difference, however, as a faternity, my brothers and I were able to just about fill a semi trailer. This particular food drive is conducted nationally by my fraternity. Last year our chapters collected over 4 million pounds of food.

 

That's like saying my vote doesn't count, every little bit makes a difference.

All but two U.S. Presidents since 1825 have been members of fraternities.

 

76% of U.S. Senators and Representatives have been members of fraternities.

 

85% of U.S. Supreme Court Justices since 1910 have been members of fraternities.

 

Of the nation's 50 largest corporations, 43 are headed by fraternity members.

 

But of course we are just a bunch of drunks who will never amount to anything in life.

Word Wireman:)

Sooner I can honestly say that one of the best things that I got out of fraternity life was becoming close friends with people from so many walks of life. We had a couple of

4ft 11inch guys that produced some of the best memories that I can remember. We had 300+lb guys that were hilarious. We had guys from hollars in Eastern KY that were as genuine as they come. We had white guys, black guys, heck we even had a guy from Greece named Stratus! There were guys that were born into the silver spoon and some that were broke as a joke. There were times that I thought people went overboard with our fraternity and times that I didn't think they respected it enough. There were times that I didn't want to go to this meeting or that meeting and times that I had to get after guys for missing everything. The great thing was that we dealt with a lot of real world issues (money managment, due process, learning to compramise with each other on important issues, having a vision and goals to get there etc). I made a lot of friends outside the fraternity but being in that structure forced me to be around a lot of people that I probably wouldn't have hung around and I think it taught me a lot about understanding how to walk in other people's shoes a lot more. It also opened my eyes to a lot of things I wouldn't have seen had I not joined just because of the backgrounds a lot of my friends came from. There were punks in our fraternity just like there are punks that aren't greek. I can honestly say that while I was in school the majority of the leaders on campus that made things happen for the students were Greek. It's easy to stereotype but until you have lived it you won't understand it.

This discussion is really broad because it is a stereotype. Fraternities differ at every university and every fraternity at each university is a little different. They even change over the years. The fraternity I was in is A LOT different than it was when I was there.

 

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Your right, I could contribute on my own, but me donating a few can goods to a local food pantry around Thanksgiving really doesn't make much difference, however, as a faternity, my brothers and I were able to just about fill a semi trailer. This particular food drive is conducted nationally by my fraternity. Last year our chapters collected over 4 million pounds of food.

 

That is great, and I'm glad that you all do that. But there are many many other organizations that do national food drives like this as well. The only thing I was getting at is that it isn't like not being in a fraternity means you can't contribute and help out. The main reason I would never consider even joining would be I don't want to put in the time and money to go through it all. I think I can receive every advantage as well as be able to participate in any sort of event without joining one and therefore I don't see how I WOULD benefit by joining. For those that do and love it congratulations, just not my thing.

All but two U.S. Presidents since 1825 have been members of fraternities.

 

76% of U.S. Senators and Representatives have been members of fraternities.

 

85% of U.S. Supreme Court Justices since 1910 have been members of fraternities.

 

Of the nation's 50 largest corporations, 43 are headed by fraternity members.

 

But of course we are just a bunch of drunks who will never amount to anything in life.

 

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All but two U.S. Presidents since 1825 have been members of fraternities.

 

76% of U.S. Senators and Representatives have been members of fraternities.

 

85% of U.S. Supreme Court Justices since 1910 have been members of fraternities.

 

Of the nation's 50 largest corporations, 43 are headed by fraternity members.

 

But of course we are just a bunch of drunks who will never amount to anything in life.

 

I don't feel that way at all. Those are very impressive numbers, they do sort of play into the whole popularity thing that somebody mentioned earlier, but like I've said they are good for the people who enjoy them, I'm just not one.

That is great, and I'm glad that you all do that. But there are many many other organizations that do national food drives like this as well. The only thing I was getting at is that it isn't like not being in a fraternity means you can't contribute and help out. The main reason I would never consider even joining would be I don't want to put in the time and money to go through it all. I think I can receive every advantage as well as be able to participate in any sort of event without joining one and therefore I don't see how I WOULD benefit by joining. For those that do and love it congratulations, just not my thing.

 

YOu might be surprised. Like anything else in life you what you get out of it is proportional to what you put into it.

I don't feel that way at all. Those are very impressive numbers.

 

Thats great, unfortunately there are many who do.

YOu might be surprised. Like anything else in life you what you get out of it is proportional to what you put into it.

 

Ha, trust me, I'm doing fine with my scholarship to pay for school and my little old hometown friends. There isn't any convincing me that I should join.

Ha, trust me, I'm doing fine with my scholarship to pay for school and my little old hometown friends. There isn't any convincing me that I should join.

 

Are there even "frats" at your school?