What's so funny? I've been saying the same thing the entire thread. You can move your off foot any way you'd like, but you can't move the pivot foot without releasing the ball.

 

The rule you quoted says you can lift your pivot foot, but if it touches the ground before releasing the ball, then it's a travel. This is exactly what cshs81 is saying. You're arguing that once it's lifted, it's a travel.

That's the point. What you've been saying the entire thread is wrong. You can move your pivot foot off the ground. You can not place it back on the ground without releasing the ball.

 

I know this. My entire point is that you can't stand like a stork on the other foot while holding the ball. That would be changing your pivot feet with the ball in hand, which is a travel.

The rule you quoted says you can lift your pivot foot, but if it touches the ground before releasing the ball, then it's a travel. This is exactly what cshs81 is saying. You're arguing that once it's lifted, it's a travel.

 

No, I'm argueing that he can't change his pivot feet while holding on to the ball.

I am also confused, jump stops are a good move to learn IMO

 

My boy worked with one of the best shooters to ever play in NKY over past 35 yrs and he doesnt believe in them. Just going off of what he was saying to me one day. I figured he was right since he lit up the 9th Region when he played and went D-1AA I dont know.

I know this. My entire point is that you can't stand like a stork on the other foot while holding the ball. That would be changing your pivot feet with the ball in hand, which is a travel.

 

Yes you can, you can't replace the initial pivot foot on the ground...

Yes you can, you can't replace the initial pivot foot on the ground...

 

Ok, sounds good :thumb:

Ok, sounds good :thumb:

 

Not buying it...:lol:

I know the rules pretty well. I have been playing basketball for 25 years including college basketball.

 

You may know rules "pretty well" but you don't know this one.

 

I'm not sure what the confusion is since 4-44-3 says "After coming to a stop and establishing a pivot foot:

 

a. THE PIVOT FOOT MAY BE LIFTED, but not returned to the floot before the ball is released.

 

Why are we debating the obvious? I'm not making up the rule. I'm simply following it.

No, I'm argueing that he can't change his pivot feet while holding on to the ball.

 

You pivot by keeping one foot planted and the other foot steps in different directions without moving that pivot foot, correct? You plant your stepping foot next to your pivot foot, and you lift your pivot foot. The only way to 'pivot' is to use that original pivot foot as the stepping foot. If you do, then you travel. However, if you simply lift it off the ground (like a stork), you really can't pivot.

There's a move that Darius Miller has perfected. I hear howls from the other side of the gym every time he does it!

 

Jajuan Spillman was a master of the jump stop as well.

You may know rules "pretty well" but you don't know this one.

 

I'm not sure what the confusion is since 4-44-3 says "After coming to a stop and establishing a pivot foot:

 

a. THE PIVOT FOOT MAY BE LIFTED, but not returned to the floot before the ball is released.

 

Why are we debating the obvious? I'm not making up the rule. I'm simply following it.

 

What that rule is saying is that you jump off of the floor (meaning both feet come off the ground) and you release the ball before you land. It doesn't mean you can take a big step to the other foot and turn it into your pivot foot.

My boy worked with one of the best shooters to ever play in NKY over past 35 yrs and he doesnt believe in them. Just going off of what he was saying to me one day. I figured he was right since he lit up the 9th Region when he played and went D-1AA I dont know.

 

To each his own...I guess...

 

I'm interested to know what he taught him instead. I mean, most kids have trouble stopping at full speed otherwise...

 

Also, if he's just talking shooting...okay...

My boy worked with one of the best shooters to ever play in NKY over past 35 yrs and he doesnt believe in them. Just going off of what he was saying to me one day. I figured he was right since he lit up the 9th Region when he played and went D-1AA I dont know.

 

Maybe since he was a strong shooter, he either didn't need the jump stop or simply never pefected it. If you can teach one to do it properly, I'm all for it. Its one more weapon in the arsenal.

To each his own...I guess...

 

I'm interested to know what he taught him instead. I mean, most kids have trouble stopping at full speed otherwise...

 

I will agree with everyone that the jump stop is a very important part of moving with the ball. :thumb:

What that rule is saying is that you jump off of the floor (meaning both feet come off the ground) and you release the ball before you land. It doesn't mean you can take a big step to the other foot and turn it into your pivot foot.

 

A. That's not what the rule is saying.

 

B. You can take a "big step" to the other (non-pivot) foot and lift your pivot foot.

 

I'm not an official but I'll pay for your membership if a known official gets on here and tells me I'm wrong in regards to lifting your pivot foot without shooting.