Ok cshs, answer me this. A player starts to go to the basket past a defender. They make the step with the off foot and lift the pivot foot before putting their dribble down. 99% of the time this is called a walk. Growing up, I was taught that before I lifted the pivot foot that I had to be moving the ball toward the floor. Every coach I had, camp I went to, everything taught me that I had to put the ball down before lifting the pivot foot. I have been called for a walk on this, and seen it called most any time. Why has this been so "misunderstood?"

Ok cshs, answer me this. A player starts to go to the basket past a defender. They take make the step with the off foot and lift the pivot foot before putting their dribble down. 99% of the time this is called a walk. Growing up, I was taught that before I lifted the pivot foot that I had to be moving the ball toward the floor. Every coach I had, camp I went to, everything taught me that I had to put the ball down before lifting the pivot foot. I have been called for a walk on this, and seen it called most any time. Why has this been so "misunderstood?"

 

Yep, it is.:thumb:

Ok cshs, answer me this. A player starts to go to the basket past a defender. They make the step with the off foot and lift the pivot foot before putting their dribble down. 99% of the time this is called a walk. Growing up, I was taught that before I lifted the pivot foot that I had to be moving the ball toward the floor. Every coach I had, camp I went to, everything taught me that I had to put the ball down before lifting the pivot foot. I have been called for a walk on this, and seen it called most any time. Why has this been so "misunderstood?"

 

Who says this call has been "misunderstood?"

If you lift your PIVOT foot and hold it like stork with the ball, you just travelled. Here is the definition of the pivot foot:

 

Pivot Foot:

 

A player who has possession of the ball but is not dribbling must always keep one foot on the ground. This planted foot is known as the pivot foot

 

The pivot foot is the foot that stays in place. Actually only one part of the foot, the ball of the foot, stays stationary. As you turn, the rest of the foot rotates about the ball of the foot.

 

a. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;

b. If the player jumps, neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal; ...

 

 

Incorrect. you haven't done anything illegal until you put it back down. by rule, high school and college. common mistake by people who don't know the actual rules.

Who says this call has been "misunderstood?"

 

Well, apparently you do.

 

Way to sidestep my example though. :thumb:

bell alumni is saying that nearly every official in the world calls this a walk. I agree with him. He's asking why, according to what you're saying, all these officials who are supposed to know the rules just don't know this one.

 

Incorrect. you haven't done anything illegal until you put it back down. by rule, high school and college. common mistake by people who don't know the actual rules.

 

Almost every referee in basketball would call this a walk, so is this just a common mistake by officials also?:sssh:

Ok cshs, answer me this. A player starts to go to the basket past a defender. They make the step with the off foot and lift the pivot foot before putting their dribble down. 99% of the time this is called a walk. Growing up, I was taught that before I lifted the pivot foot that I had to be moving the ball toward the floor. Every coach I had, camp I went to, everything taught me that I had to put the ball down before lifting the pivot foot. I have been called for a walk on this, and seen it called most any time. Why has this been so "misunderstood?"

 

To start a dribble requires having a pivot foot. Once you lift your pivot foot from the floor you can no longer start a dribble. So, you were taught correctly and that is why it is called a travel.

Well, apparently you do.

 

Way to sidestep my example though. :thumb:

 

Bell, I'd suggest you go back and read this thread before you get on here and say I'm sidestepping anything, my man.

 

Your example you gave and the one your coaches taught you is NOT what we're talking about.

 

You're talking about starting off a dribble. We've never mentioned that.

 

So, you want to try that one again?

Incorrect. you haven't done anything illegal until you put it back down. by rule, high school and college. common mistake by people who don't know the actual rules.

 

We have established that you can lift it as long as you release the ball about 3 pages and 85 posts ago :thumb:

Bell, I'd suggest you go back and read this thread before you get on here and say I'm sidestepping anything, my man.

 

Your example you gave and the one your coaches taught you is NOT what we're talking about.

 

You're talking about starting off a dribble. We've never mentioned that.

 

So, you want to try that one again?

 

I've been here the whole time, my man. I've been reading it from the start. I think YOU should go back and check where I have made several posts.

 

I know what we are talking about, and it is the same thing. It is lifting the pivot foot. He makes a move to go to the basket, lifts his pivot foot when he steps on the other one before he puts the dribble down. Let's say the player makes that step and gets cut off and decides to stop and keep that foot in the air. You dont think that is going to get called a walk? I'd like to hear how you think stepping on the other foot and lifting his pivot foot before putting down a dribble is different than what you are describing.

All of the above are incorrect.

 

No, it is not incorrect. Maybe I misunderstood what you are talking about but the facts that I stated come directly from the rulebook.

 

Want a copy?

Incorrect. you haven't done anything illegal until you put it back down. by rule, high school and college. common mistake by people who don't know the actual rules.

 

No, he is correct. Once the pivot foot has been established, by let's say a player pivoting on that foot, then he/she resets both feet(the pivot foot doesn't change) he CANNOT lift that pivot foot unless he starts his/her dribble. I think that is what he was talking about. I think we all might be a bit confused as to what the other is trying to say on this topic, I know I am.

What if he stands like a stork, spins the ball on his finger, while patting his head at the same time? Is that a travel?

 

Oh, while yelling timeout!

What if he stands like a stork, spins the ball on his finger, while patting his head at the same time? Is that a travel?

 

Oh, while yelling timeout!

I don't know what you would call, but I have to say that I would be impressed.

I didn't change my pivot foot. I simply lifted it while standing on the non-pivot foot.

 

I'd suggest you read a little bit further into the rulebook.

 

Did you start your dribble?