I was just throwing it out there if the Baseball team had any players that came under scrutiny. LCA did get good awfully quick.

 

Knowing where every kid came from on that Baseball team that won the State Championship its easy to defend. I'll be willing to bet the players on that team were in LCA's system longer than the Trinity team it beat in the semi finals of the State. There was not 1 kid that was given any aid on that team nor had not been in the school for a long time. Just because a team wins does not make it a Cheater. that team finished in the semi-finals of the 11th region in 2002,the finals of the Region in 2003 the finals of the Region in 2004 before finally winning in 2005 that doesn't seem to be getting awefully good very quick. It kills me when Louisville people can cry foul (Trinity) when they are in a town that has no boundries,How many Trinity kids are on State Champion Football Teams that are not from the State of Kentucky? I can't speak of any team at LCA with any knowledge other than the baseball team but if you would like to know where every player came from and how long they had been in the school no one is to worried to post that information. Should LCA have known the Rules, the answer to that is yes, did it apply to the Baseball team NO. I guess if Trinity ever gets in any trouble it would make them guilty and they Should Vacate ALL their Titles?

I'll just go ahead and list the 2005 Baseball Team:

 

1b-Tyler Oliver sophomore entered school 2nd grade

2b Korey Kolyer junior entered in grade school

ss Chris Wade junior 9-12 grades home schooled both sisters along with cousins LCA grads

3b Seth Hargrove sr entered school in preschool

c Josh Rodgers sr K-6 LCA 7&8th Woodford Co. came back to LCA 9-12 total 11 years at LCA

LF Jeff Owen sr entered in grade school

cf Garrie Krueger jr entered 6th grade

rf Zack Monroe jr 9-12 went to Clays Mill Baptist 1-8

dh Brandon Bentley jr entered grade school

p Jimmy stanley sr 9-12 was cut as 8th grader from Henry Clay

P Jackson Sylvanik sr Grade school

P Nate Hargis sr Grade School

inf Michael Nielson so entered grade school

PR Anthony Eldridge jr entered grade school

 

Not one is a minority student that got one nickle from any financial fund or church. These kids all came from the same area as the kids from Dunbar, Lexington Catholic, Lafayette. Lexington is a good YOUTH Baseball area and that is the biggest reason for LCA's quick improvement.

How do you explain every sports program there?

 

I'm not saying they cheated......I'm saying it is an advantage for private schools due to policies and guidelines.

Keep it the same.

 

Kids will go where they (or their parents) want to go. I'm not up on all of the under the table money issues. If a particular school has an attribute that attracts the kid/parent, for whatever reason, then send him/her there. They must have a HS education to get to college. To keep them interested in HS is not soo bad IMO. Sports are over for most after HS.

 

Now, some of this has to rest on the shoulders of the schools that are the "have nots". I think public schools need to a take a look at themselves and ask how can we be more like the private schools that are doing so well. Why are kids leaving our school? Is it the facilities, the staff, the location, or the administration, etc? Perhaps the private schools try harder to attract students because they don't have student population that must attend their school. Maybe private schools run more like a business and public schools could do the same.

 

It seems like Beechwood and Highlands in NKY (public schools) have figured this out and have created a system that parents go to extremes to send their kids to for the education and athletics.

 

I think a lot of this come from the surrounding community and alumni as well. But no school district culture is cast in stone. Who will be next to make a change? In NKY it could be Newport. Already an independent school system in place and now there is push for new home construction and revitalization of the community... who knows?

 

I think there is lot that needs to be examined or else one rule will lead to another, and another, and another....

The player in question was not allowed to play in the state final. He was deemed ineligible after exhausting his appeals, correct? Your record is still 2-13 for that season, correct?

 

Yes he was ruled ineligible. Yes their record for that year was 2-13. Yes they exhausted all appeals and were found to be in violation. That is the facts that cannot be disputed. And yes they should have had to forfeit the title.

Yes he was ruled ineligible. Yes their record for that year was 2-13. Yes they exhausted all appeals and were found to be in violation. That is the facts that cannot be disputed. And yes they should have had to forfeit the title.

Of course, this in no way describes what actually happened, nor how it turned out.

 

But there's no good reason to go back over these silly allegations. :sleep:

Of course, this in no way describes what actually happened, nor how it turned out.

 

But there's no good reason to go back over these silly allegations. :sleep:

 

Care to explain it then?

That part of the story didn't make the Louisville paper. Did the school allow them to go through ceremony and not release their transcripts? That's a common course of action.

 

No, their transcripts were released and monies never collected. That is why there was an infraction.

The fact the kids want to attend a private institution over a public should be a concern for the publics. For instance, I understand In Baltimore, the private schools are generally not well funded and the public schools are thought to offer better educational atmosphere.

 

If I lose a customer to a competitor, I usually want to know why so I can change or improve my product offerings.

 

Once again, trying to reduce education and prep athletics to a buisness in not in the interest of anyone. You would have everyone who can't afford a high level institution in one environment, and everyone else in another. That is, unless you were a good enough athlete to qualify for a need based scholarship.

Let them separate. Then Make the KHSAA go after the publics that stretch the rules, as bad or worse as the privates. Let the privates govern themselves.

Once again, trying to reduce education and prep athletics to a buisness in not in the interest of anyone. You would have everyone who can't afford a high level institution in one environment, and everyone else in another. That is, unless you were a good enough athlete to qualify for a need based scholarship.

 

The fact that you really believe this make me

I must pose this question again....what exactly is the intended result of separation? Specifically, what do we want to achieve and how do we know when we're there? Assume the privates are separated, is the playing field now equal? How do we deal with the same publics winning too much? Oh yea, it's not about winning...it's about "level" ... that clear's it up. What exactly is "level"? Who gets to define that very subjective term? Who gets to measure it and keep it there? By what criteriea do they accomplish that? Separation is the first of many subsequent steps toward a achieving goal that has yet to be determined....

I must pose this question again....what exactly is the intended result of separation? Specifically, what do we want to achieve and how do we know when we're there? Assume the privates are separated, is the playing field now equal? How do we deal with the same publics winning too much? Oh yea, it's not about winning...it's about "level" ... that clear's it up. What exactly is "level"? Who gets to define that very subjective term? Who gets to measure it and keep it there? By what criteriea do they accomplish that? Separation is the first of many subsequent steps toward a achieving goal that has yet to be determined....

 

First, remember I am not for a split strictly on the private/public level although if that is the only choice, than I would change my view on it.

 

The assumption is that public schools are like schools and private schools are like schools. Let like schools compete against like schools and don't ask them to compete against schools that they are not like.

 

Publics have advantages and disadvantages over privates and it is as unfair to ask privates to compete against publics as it is the other way around.

 

It is unfair to ask privates to operate as publics and be limited to certain community boundaries, no tuition assistance, etc, etc.

 

So, I assume the goal is to let schools that are more alike be the ones that they are competing against.

The fact that you really believe this make me

 

Are you saying that you believe this has never happened?

 

I believe it probaby has happened. Just like public schools have recruited athletes has happened also.

I'm not saying that it has never happened but then again it has never been proven that it has either to my knowlege.

 

I'm rolling my eyes at the assertion that the only way someone would qualify for financial aid was if they were a good athlete.