I think the issue becomes, is a District sending it's two best teams. Let's say 4 team District and team "A" is 23-4 and very, very good and would be #1 Seed, undefeated in District. Team "B" is also very good 20-7.

 

Then team "C" is 10-13 and team "D" is 8-16....Then "A" and "B" draw each other, so that means "C" and "D" will play each other. Obviously, the two best teams won't advance to the Region and does that not give an advantage, to a team in the Region who will play either C or D.

 

This might be better topic for another thread, apologize for getting off the path.

If they wanted to what's best for their school and team they should consider finding a coach capable of trying to actually earn a top seed and then win a district tournament.

 

You are highly out of touch with how most small schools in Kentucky work. There is only a small few that can actually compete with bigger schools year in and year out. Also, until you know all the fights that administration and coaches fight within small schools you would know more. Kent Vories and Tom Dilts bust their tails to make the best of what is offered to them in their schools. They take what is given and don't even have try outs. Do NOT discredit them for not being "capable coaches" because they don't have the talent flow or other assets that the schools in the district have. Did you ever look up the enrollment in Dayton or Bellevue? Also, yeah that is a good idea, Bellevue and Dayton I highly suggest you get rid of your coaches because there are people absolutely begging to come to Dayton and Bellevue to coach . They do what they can with what they have and because it isn't enough to win district championships they shouldn't be judged on that fact as you could bring in Coach K and give him the same teams at Dayton and Bellevue right now and he wouldn't be able to do much more than what is being done at either school now. Do you even realize that the tallest regular for either of these teams is 6'2''? Neither has had a DI talent come out in years and Highlands may have 2! Pardon my judgement but I don't think that commenting on Dayton or Bellevue, the job that their coaching staff and administration does with their program can be understood unless you at least have a simple knowledge of the schools that we are dealing with. Have you ever been to Dayton High School? It's one hallway... Thats it... If they can find 8 guys in that hallway that can compete in the top half of DIII and even up at .500 thats a heckuva year! Is that what they shoot for? NO, but in the grand scheme of things not too much more can consistantly be expected. Same goes for Bellevue. I just think it is quite irresponsible to judge a schools program, administration, and coaching when one most likely hasn't seen the teams play, hasn't been to the schools, has not seen recent 36th district tournaments or draws etc. Those schools do a heckuva job with their programs... Its not their fault that the talent that lies in Ft. Thomas, Newport, Alexandria, Cold Spring etc. isnt' on par with what they have in their towns.

 

And that what I really think...

Without reading the thread, I would suggest if you don't want to seed, then you should not be allowed to play in the All-A Tournament.

Play in All-A, then subject yourself to seeding.

Even our middle school league seeds their tournament. Go NKYMSBL!!

Well if they did go with seating this year, the seating would have been:

 

1-Highlands

2-Newport (they won the regular season game)

3-NCC

4-Bellevue

5-Dayton

 

Sportskid we're not talking about your SEATING in the gym we're talking about seeding the teams!!!:laugh:

We have quite a few Class A teams in the 13th, so I don't think I'm that out of touch. Most of them try to win the All "A" regional and make a run in the regular district tournament when a good crew comes through, like Pineville this year.

 

Your scenario sounds terribly depressing. Perhaps giving up basketball would be the best option if it's that hopeless and focus on soccer or cross country.

We have quite a few Class A teams in the 13th, so I don't think I'm that out of touch. Most of them try to win the All "A" regional and make a run in the regular district tournament when a good crew comes through, like Pineville this year.

 

Your scenario sounds terribly depressing. Perhaps giving up basketball would be the best option if it's that hopeless and focus on soccer or cross country.

 

You continue to throw remarks out about these schools in which you have no idea of the situation. Not only that, but you continue to blast away with rude comments that are completely uncalled for. Yeah, I'm sorry, but it is different in the 9th than it is in the 13th. Maybe we'll just stick to basketball an do what is best for each individual school and not complain about how a draw is unfair and take "our" chances not wanting to be competitive. I'm done with this one... It's pointless...

The most prominant argument for this is the Richmond district. Madison Southern is usually the 2nd best team to Madison Central and they almost ALWAYS draw each other. There are a lot of kids who IMO have earned the right to play in the regional tournament, but because it's like a lottery ticket these kids are not given the chance they have "earned".

I stand firm in my vote, weather it counts or not.

People may think the draw is unfair. But why would NCC think they should get a seed when it seems like they have not won a game this year (2008).

I believe NCC would have been a 3 seed last year and this year.

They under achieved last year and this year.

Bellevue and Dayton should get a chance to play in the region.

Bellevue and Dayton should get a chance to play in the region.

 

They do have a chance, by winning.

People may think the draw is unfair. But why would NCC think they should get a seed when it seems like they have not won a game this year (2008).

I believe NCC would have been a 3 seed last year and this year.

They under achieved last year and this year.

Bellevue and Dayton should get a chance to play in the region.

 

As any Cinderella, they should have to knock off a big dog to advance. Just handing them a trip to the region is a joke! Another point, Highlands has played hurt all year long. A number one seed EARNS a bye. Think about it. I am really suprised by some of the contradiction here. I have heard many fellow posters state things need to be earned by our kids in many threads. But here we have the opposite. I don't get it.

People may think the draw is unfair. But why would NCC think they should get a seed when it seems like they have not won a game this year (2008).

I believe NCC would have been a 3 seed last year and this year.

They under achieved last year and this year.

Bellevue and Dayton should get a chance to play in the region.

 

They beat Newport this year.

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Maybe the parents and fans of both teams, I dont know.

 

There goes the money theory.

Without reading the thread, I would suggest if you don't want to seed, then you should not be allowed to play in the All-A Tournament.

Play in All-A, then subject yourself to seeding.

 

As ridiculous as some posts are in this thread, this one has got to be the winner. 1st, the ALL A is a "private" tourney not sponsored by nor affiliated with the KHSAA so why would you mix the two. Anyone meeting their guidelines has the right to participate or not participate in the ALL A. And secondly, you are better prepared to intelligently post in the thread if you read it. Then, whatever your take is, you at least are better prepared to comment.

If they wanted to what's best for their school and team they should consider finding a coach capable of trying to actually earn a top seed and then win a district tournament.

 

You are out of line.........you have no idea about the coaches of most small schools! I would bet that in addition to trying to compete on the court year in and year out with lesser talent than most schools, they also fight greater battles with other things such as funding, facilities, equipment etc. Small School Coaches get the entire package of headaches that SOME larger schools don't have. Until you walk in the shoes of the small school coaches, and until you know the work that is done day in and day out by the Cory Highfields, the Tom Dilts's. the Kent Vories', the Matt Sharps, the Robin Kelsch's and on and on and on, then you have no right to comment about a "capable coach". Most of those listed and others from small schools are quite "capable" of coaching. In case no one brought this to your attention, sometimes, you need talent and numbers. Give Tom Dilts or his staff, or Robin Kelsch the Holmes or CovCath or Mason County talent for a couple years and see if they can earn a top seed. My bet is without a doubt. Sometimes, coaches play the hand their dealt, and people aren't knocking down the doors to coach at these small schools for a few cents an hour:irked: