January 18, 200818 yr I have not been one that was saying that Tubby left behind crappy players. Stupid or not, the senior class did not leave up to it's top recruiting class ranking it got. Maybe, just maybe, it was the PLAYERS and not the coach. That's a novel idea. I'm confused.
January 18, 200818 yr I'm confused. Why confused? Bradley, Rondo, Morris, Crawford all very talented with attitude problems.
January 18, 200818 yr There was no bashing of BCG before your post of trying to tear down the UM success. Blue Blazeer has done it in other threads and nothing was said. Take off your Tubby glasses and post with your head not your heart.
January 18, 200818 yr Why confused? Bradley, Rondo, Morris, Crawford all very talented with attitude problems. OK, so why were they recruited?
January 18, 200818 yr Blue Blazeer has done it in other threads and nothing was said. Take off your Tubby glasses and post with your head not your heart. So, I say that Tubby and UK was not a good marriage. I agree with the author that says that UK was not a good spot for UK and I am wearing Tubby glasses. Is the only way to not be wearing Tubby glasses is to rip him as a horrible coach and the ruination of life in the commonwealth? And trust me posting with my head is all I have done as I list facts more than anything. And had Blue Blazer posted anything in this thread?
January 18, 200818 yr OK, so why were they recruited? They were all very talented. I said that. Now I am confused.
January 18, 200818 yr So, I say that Tubby and UK was not a good marriage. I agree with the author that says that UK was not a good spot for UK and I am wearing Tubby glasses. Is the only way to not be wearing Tubby glasses is to rip him as a horrible coach and the ruination of life in the commonwealth? And trust me posting with my head is all I have done as I list facts more than anything. And had Blue Blazer posted anything in this thread? Please show me where I said Tubby was a horrible coach.
January 18, 200818 yr They were all very talented. I said that. Now I am confused. So he didn't evaluate them well enough to know they were "head cases"? All I'm trying to say is that the head coach is responsible for the players he recruits and coaches. If they're not performing, then either the coach can't recruit, or he can't coach. One of the two. UK requires you do both. And FWIW, I agree, that Tubby is a very good coach that is very well suited to a second tier school in a major conference where he doesn't need 5 star recruits to meet expectations.
January 18, 200818 yr Please show me where I said Tubby was a horrible coach. That was a question I posed to you. I forgot the ? You said I am wearing Tubby colored glasses when I said UK and Tubby was not a good marriage. I was just trying to figure out in your opinion when a person would not be wearing Tubby colored glasses. Especially since I said Tubby was not a good coach for UK. I would have assumed that would have sufficed but it seems it was not.
January 18, 200818 yr So he didn't evaluate them well enough to know they were "head cases"? All I'm trying to say is that the head coach is responsible for the players he recruits and coaches. If they're not performing, then either the coach can't recruit, or he can't coach. One of the two. UK requires you do both. And FWIW, I agree, that Tubby is a very good coach that is very well suited to a second tier school in a major conference where he doesn't need 5 star recruits to meet expectations. So the players get a free ride and hold no responsibility in the type of players they are? Absolutely, Tubby holds responsibility but I think the players hold an equal responsibility for either being coachable or not.
January 18, 200818 yr Just another "I love Tubby thread" disguised as a Minnesota basketball thread. :confused: I am confused about your point. Would you expect a Duke thread to be a I hate Coach K thread? A Florida thread to be that Billy D can't coach thread? A UC thread to be that Mick Cronin's wins over Syracuse doesn't mean anything cause he couldn't do it at UK thread? Coach Smith took a team that won 9 games last year and they have already pasted that. What do you expect? He can't coach even though he has taken the same roster and exceeded it from last year?
January 18, 200818 yr Interesting comments I heard by the commentators in the short time I watched the game. They stated that this Minnesota team was expected to be good this year even before Tubby got the job. I think it was something along the lines of they knew they had good players returning who could score and who gained valuable experience last year. So, while they have probably exceeded expectations, the fact that they are winning games & being competitive is not a total shock. I was suprised by this comment also, because all I've heard is that he inherited a team low in talent.
January 18, 200818 yr IMO the two quick fouls, on the IU star and the hound dog attitude he seemed to go into, had as much to do with the game being close as IU being outcoached. Just watching this game I felt like Tubby came into more basketball talent than he left in Lexington. IU tried to give them the game but they just didn't take it. Wow your saying a team who won 9 games this past year, had more talent on it than a team who returned most of their key players from last years 2nd round tournament team? It all just has to do with the coach.
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