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Lessons from Chris and Darius

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You are likely to find the mcpapa family dining at Melini Cucina before or after the games this year!

 

The Calzone's are HUGE! and very good. I like the Hawiian with ham and pineapple.

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No biggie to me. If you read any of my earlier posts, I only recently became a royal fan. Check my join date. My team got beat very early last year and not by GRC. She was the one complaining about buses. I just pointed out the obvious!

 

One selfish statement there my friend.

I know our AD and tournament directors very well. I believe last year finals were approxiamtely 3000 paid but I have been told that they are as many 500 passes for the tournament. They also said that there were 1700 paid at last years girls and there was very little room left. If people think that last years Mason-Clark crown could have fit in Montgomery, they must be looking at the Montgomery gym with different eyes than mine.

 

You are basically making my point for me. 3,500 at the GRC/Mason final last year, including passes. The state fire marshall measured Montgomery's capacity at 4,408.....I don't see a problem. Like I said earlier, the big misconception is that so many people think the Fieldhouse holds way more than it actually does. I've heard people say that they can squeeze 6,000-6,500 in there and it's just not true. I think most would be surprised to know that last year's final crowd was only around 3,500 including passes.

One of the things I love about the play of Chris Lofton and Darius Miller is their unselfish attitude. When Chris played, he did not hesitate to set up Grutza or Litzinger or other members of that team and even encouraged them to take their shot.

 

Darius is one of the most unselfish and encouraging teammates I've ever seen. He will pass up an open shot if someone else is open. If they miss he will pat them on the back so they feel like they are supposed to shoot it again the next time.

 

Many of the posters on BGP recognize and appreciate this unselfish attitude of the quality kids playing at Mason Co. Fellow members of the region speak up and post high praise. Mason fans on BGP are proud of the way the kids conduct themselves... rightfully so.

 

Now that it is time for the adults in Mason County to pass the ball, there doesn't seem to be too much unselfishness.

 

The 40th district has voted for the region to be played in Montgomery County's new gym this year and the people of Mt. Sterling are excited and honored to host this event. It is still the 10th region tournament and there is a LOT of pride connected to the tournament. I know that the administration at Montgomery County will do everything in their power to host the tournament in a first-class manner.

 

In my opinion, some excellent teaching opportunities are at the fingertips of the Mason Co. administration. If they would reach out and offer their expertise in running the tournament to Montgomery Co. it would really be a gesture of good faith. Pass the ball, Fred Hester, Kelly Middleton, and others who's opinion would really be valuable.

 

Support the 10th region tournament this year Mason Co. BGP fans. Darius and Chris have given the example for you to follow. Pass the ball.

 

....and BTW, great post Plato! :thumb:

 

I doubt anyone would argue that Mason Co. has done a phenomenal job of hosting the regional tournament, but when you do something for 30+ years, you tend to get pretty good at it. It is unfair to expect Montgomery to pull it off flawlessly in their first attempt, but I can assure you that every ounce of effort available will go into doing it right.....give them a chance.

The only time I can remember the finals being sold out was when Pendleton made the finals. They brought a ton of fans. No disrespect to Pendleton but I don't think they will be in the finals this year so I believe there won't be a huge problem with capacity.

You guys will find out if Mason plays Montgomery or Clark. The only thing that will save the crowd is the number of basketball fans (Non Royal) around Maysville that normally attend the Regional chooses not to attend this year. This is quite a few fans. Good Luck with the Tournament!!!!!!

The only time I can remember the finals being sold out was when Pendleton made the finals. They brought a ton of fans. No disrespect to Pendleton but I don't think they will be in the finals this year so I believe there won't be a huge problem with capacity.

 

You need to go back then and research a little further because in 1992 Mason played Nicholas and it was sold out at the Fieldhouse. Pendleton finals was the most recent game you remember but not the ONLY one in terms of your statement.

I've gone on record several times on this issue. While Mason County has tradition, experience and a fairly centralized location (travel time will be two hours from NKY to Winchester), I have no problem with Montgomery County getting a shot.

 

There have been several instances over the years when The Fieldhouse was at or very near capacity in the tournament. By at or near capacity, I mean 5,000 or so in attendance. Several potential semi-final and final matchups have the potential to attract at least that many to Winchester. The "I won't travel that far" sentiment that I've seen from some of the NKY folks will more than likely be offset by the strong possibility that Mason, Clark and Montgomery will make the semis, depending on how the draw shakes out, and by the "Darius" factor. Might be more than a few folks from in and around Lexington that want to catch a game featuring a UK signee.

 

Here's one of many posts I made well over a year ago on the subject:

 

Here are the distances from the Region 10 high schools to Mason County and to Montgomery County, per Yahoo. I'll start with the 2006 10th Region qualifiers.

 

Covington Scott: 55 to Mason, 110 to Montgomery

Clark County: 61 to Mason, 17 to Montgomery

Pendleton County: 37 to Mason, 61 to Montgomery

Augusta: 18 to Mason, 66 to Montgomery

Bishop Brossart: 45 to Mason, 82 to Montgomery

Montgomery County: 50 to Mason, 0 to Montgomery

Mason County: 0 to Mason, 50 to Montgomery

Deming: 20 to Mason, 46 to Montgomery

 

Distance for the 7 teams other than Mason to travel to Mason: 286 miles

Distance for the 7 teams other than Montgomery to travel to Montgomery: 432 miles.

 

Other schools:

 

Calvary Christian: 57 to Mason, 112 to Montgomery

Campbell County: 46 to Mason, 82 to Montgomery

Bracken County: 16 to Mason, 67 to Montgomery

Harrison County: 43 to Mason, 39 to Montgomery

Nicholas County: 31 to Mason, 25 to Montgomery

Paris: 43 to Mason, 25 to Montgomery

St. Patrick: 3 to Mason, 50 to Montgomery

Bourbon County: 45 to Mason, 26 to Montgomery

 

Distance for these 8 teams to travel to Mason: 284 miles

Distance for these 8 teams to travel to Montgomery: 426 miles

 

It is clear that the addition of the Covington teams to the 10th Region has created a situation making Montgomery County even more of a geographical outlier than they were before.

 

I'll cut/paste my thoughts from another board regarding moving the 10th here:

 

 

As a long-time Mason County HS fan, I love the tournament here at the Fieldhouse. The athletic department runs a class operation, second to none. The 10th Region tourney is one of the great traditions in KY, if not national high school sports. I was friends (he passed away last month) with the gentleman whose construction company built the Fieldhouse.

 

When the tournament was held elsewhere for a brief time several decades ago, it was an absolute disaster. It has taken over 30 years for really serious discussion regarding moving the tourney site to get any traction; that's how badly it went.

 

With all that being said, if the regional powers-that-be really think that Montgomery County will have the facilities and everything else that goes along with putting on the 10th tourney (parking, hospitality, ticket management, concessions, nearby accomodations, etc. etc. etc.) in 2008; I say let them have their chance. If it turns out to be a gigantic flop like it was in the '70s; maybe it will be another 30+ years before the bad memories are erased.

 

If it runs smoothly, and thousands of fans aren't turned away, and the smaller schools in the region are satisfied with their share of the gate; then Montgomery County should be allowed into a permanent rotation. While it won't be the same; I'll still attend the tournament if Mason County is playing (although I'll attend whether or not the Royals are playing as long as the Fieldhouse hosts).

 

There's something to be said for tradition - especially when the majority consistently elects to keep the tradition.

 

Long story short - let Montgomery County host the tournament; if it works out, great; if not; well, we all know where it will be next time around.

The Calzone's are HUGE! and very good. I like the Hawiian with ham and pineapple.

 

The only Melini's I haven't been to is the one in Ironton. Their Morehead, Grayson and Mt. Sterling locations have gotten much patronage from me.:thumb:

I've gone on record several times on this issue. While Mason County has tradition, experience and a fairly centralized location (travel time will be two hours from NKY to Winchester), I have no problem with Montgomery County getting a shot.

 

There have been several instances over the years when The Fieldhouse was at or very near capacity in the tournament. By at or near capacity, I mean 5,000 or so in attendance. Several potential semi-final and final matchups have the potential to attract at least that many to Winchester. The "I won't travel that far" sentiment that I've seen from some of the NKY folks will more than likely be offset by the strong possibility that Mason, Clark and Montgomery will make the semis, depending on how the draw shakes out, and by the "Darius" factor. Might be more than a few folks from in and around Lexington that want to catch a game featuring a UK signee.

 

Here's one of many posts I made well over a year ago on the subject:

 

Here are the distances from the Region 10 high schools to Mason County and to Montgomery County, per Yahoo. I'll start with the 2006 10th Region qualifiers.

 

Covington Scott: 55 to Mason, 110 to Montgomery

Clark County: 61 to Mason, 17 to Montgomery

Pendleton County: 37 to Mason, 61 to Montgomery

Augusta: 18 to Mason, 66 to Montgomery

Bishop Brossart: 45 to Mason, 82 to Montgomery

Montgomery County: 50 to Mason, 0 to Montgomery

Mason County: 0 to Mason, 50 to Montgomery

Deming: 20 to Mason, 46 to Montgomery

 

Distance for the 7 teams other than Mason to travel to Mason: 286 miles

Distance for the 7 teams other than Montgomery to travel to Montgomery: 432 miles.

 

Other schools:

 

Calvary Christian: 57 to Mason, 112 to Montgomery

Campbell County: 46 to Mason, 82 to Montgomery

Bracken County: 16 to Mason, 67 to Montgomery

Harrison County: 43 to Mason, 39 to Montgomery

Nicholas County: 31 to Mason, 25 to Montgomery

Paris: 43 to Mason, 25 to Montgomery

St. Patrick: 3 to Mason, 50 to Montgomery

Bourbon County: 45 to Mason, 26 to Montgomery

 

Distance for these 8 teams to travel to Mason: 284 miles

Distance for these 8 teams to travel to Montgomery: 426 miles

 

It is clear that the addition of the Covington teams to the 10th Region has created a situation making Montgomery County even more of a geographical outlier than they were before.

 

I'll cut/paste my thoughts from another board regarding moving the 10th here:

 

 

As a long-time Mason County HS fan, I love the tournament here at the Fieldhouse. The athletic department runs a class operation, second to none. The 10th Region tourney is one of the great traditions in KY, if not national high school sports. I was friends (he passed away last month) with the gentleman whose construction company built the Fieldhouse.

 

When the tournament was held elsewhere for a brief time several decades ago, it was an absolute disaster. It has taken over 30 years for really serious discussion regarding moving the tourney site to get any traction; that's how badly it went.

 

With all that being said, if the regional powers-that-be really think that Montgomery County will have the facilities and everything else that goes along with putting on the 10th tourney (parking, hospitality, ticket management, concessions, nearby accomodations, etc. etc. etc.) in 2008; I say let them have their chance. If it turns out to be a gigantic flop like it was in the '70s; maybe it will be another 30+ years before the bad memories are erased.

 

If it runs smoothly, and thousands of fans aren't turned away, and the smaller schools in the region are satisfied with their share of the gate; then Montgomery County should be allowed into a permanent rotation. While it won't be the same; I'll still attend the tournament if Mason County is playing (although I'll attend whether or not the Royals are playing as long as the Fieldhouse hosts).

 

There's something to be said for tradition - especially when the majority consistently elects to keep the tradition.

 

Long story short - let Montgomery County host the tournament; if it works out, great; if not; well, we all know where it will be next time around.

 

Thank you for all the research and well thought-out facts of this venue change. You know what they say about opinions (and people around here have a lot to say about differing opinions), but it's hard to argue with fact.

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I've gone on record several times on this issue. While Mason County has tradition, experience and a fairly centralized location (travel time will be two hours from NKY to Winchester), I have no problem with Montgomery County getting a shot.

 

There have been several instances over the years when The Fieldhouse was at or very near capacity in the tournament. By at or near capacity, I mean 5,000 or so in attendance. Several potential semi-final and final matchups have the potential to attract at least that many to Winchester. The "I won't travel that far" sentiment that I've seen from some of the NKY folks will more than likely be offset by the strong possibility that Mason, Clark and Montgomery will make the semis, depending on how the draw shakes out, and by the "Darius" factor. Might be more than a few folks from in and around Lexington that want to catch a game featuring a UK signee.

 

Here's one of many posts I made well over a year ago on the subject:

 

Here are the distances from the Region 10 high schools to Mason County and to Montgomery County, per Yahoo. I'll start with the 2006 10th Region qualifiers.

 

Covington Scott: 55 to Mason, 110 to Montgomery

Clark County: 61 to Mason, 17 to Montgomery

Pendleton County: 37 to Mason, 61 to Montgomery

Augusta: 18 to Mason, 66 to Montgomery

Bishop Brossart: 45 to Mason, 82 to Montgomery

Montgomery County: 50 to Mason, 0 to Montgomery

Mason County: 0 to Mason, 50 to Montgomery

Deming: 20 to Mason, 46 to Montgomery

 

Distance for the 7 teams other than Mason to travel to Mason: 286 miles

Distance for the 7 teams other than Montgomery to travel to Montgomery: 432 miles.

 

Other schools:

 

Calvary Christian: 57 to Mason, 112 to Montgomery

Campbell County: 46 to Mason, 82 to Montgomery

Bracken County: 16 to Mason, 67 to Montgomery

Harrison County: 43 to Mason, 39 to Montgomery

Nicholas County: 31 to Mason, 25 to Montgomery

Paris: 43 to Mason, 25 to Montgomery

St. Patrick: 3 to Mason, 50 to Montgomery

Bourbon County: 45 to Mason, 26 to Montgomery

 

Distance for these 8 teams to travel to Mason: 284 miles

Distance for these 8 teams to travel to Montgomery: 426 miles

 

It is clear that the addition of the Covington teams to the 10th Region has created a situation making Montgomery County even more of a geographical outlier than they were before.

 

I'll cut/paste my thoughts from another board regarding moving the 10th here:

 

 

As a long-time Mason County HS fan, I love the tournament here at the Fieldhouse. The athletic department runs a class operation, second to none. The 10th Region tourney is one of the great traditions in KY, if not national high school sports. I was friends (he passed away last month) with the gentleman whose construction company built the Fieldhouse.

 

When the tournament was held elsewhere for a brief time several decades ago, it was an absolute disaster. It has taken over 30 years for really serious discussion regarding moving the tourney site to get any traction; that's how badly it went.

 

With all that being said, if the regional powers-that-be really think that Montgomery County will have the facilities and everything else that goes along with putting on the 10th tourney (parking, hospitality, ticket management, concessions, nearby accomodations, etc. etc. etc.) in 2008; I say let them have their chance. If it turns out to be a gigantic flop like it was in the '70s; maybe it will be another 30+ years before the bad memories are erased.

 

If it runs smoothly, and thousands of fans aren't turned away, and the smaller schools in the region are satisfied with their share of the gate; then Montgomery County should be allowed into a permanent rotation. While it won't be the same; I'll still attend the tournament if Mason County is playing (although I'll attend whether or not the Royals are playing as long as the Fieldhouse hosts).

 

There's something to be said for tradition - especially when the majority consistently elects to keep the tradition.

 

Long story short - let Montgomery County host the tournament; if it works out, great; if not; well, we all know where it will be next time around.

 

 

MCPAPA - you are a team player... Thanks for giving it a fair shot.

My only concern is that Montgomery Co. is an awfull long drive from where I live. I would hate to drive all that way and then just be turned away at the door when I got there.

My father complains that "MY" yard is too much to mow, but he has never mowed it, I do.I also am not hearing much from people that are going to be affected by a longer drive to Montgomery Co. complaining.

You need to go back then and research a little further because in 1992 Mason played Nicholas and it was sold out at the Fieldhouse. Pendleton finals was the most recent game you remember but not the ONLY one in terms of your statement.

 

I don't remember that one. I was only 10.

To be honest i know quiet a few people that have complained about it and there NOT Mason fans.When the time comes people we show up no matter where its at this forum is there way to vent off there unhappiness.:thumb:

 

That seems a little silly to me to argue about the regional tournament. I can understand the host team wanting to keep the regional tournament, but it simply isn't fair for a team to play on their home court every year. This is good for the 10th region.

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