Are we really saying that in order for a pro athlete to perform at his peak level that he MUST be allowed to garner 15 yard penalties? We're OK with that? No one sees the problem with that?

 

I was thinking the same thing. If Chad doesn't get to act the fool he is incapable of physically performing? Thats messed up. I think I will go to work tomorrow and spit water on the floor and claim that if I can't be me then I can't work at full capacity.

Well I think need to just let him have fun, because he does play better that way. And if he wants to celebrate Td's go right ahead, but he just needs to go back to making sure that his celebrations don't cost them a penalty, and he had been good at doing that until this one. .

 

This one? Did I miss a bunch of them?

This one? Did I miss a bunch of them?

 

Since they put this celebration rule in place, had he been penalized for it until now? I could be wrong, but I don't think he has. So that means as I said that he had been good at doing some kind of celebration and not getting flagged for it until now...

And well you would be wrong about Willie Anderson because he and Palmer had this to say about Chad Johnson in a article last week before the game:

 

Palmer has already said he likes the Old Chad. And right tackle Willie Anderson advised Johnson "if he needs to talk to score touchdowns, then start talking."

 

Liking the old Chad from Palmer is not saying go get a 15 yard penalty and do a celebration if you score.

 

Talking to get TD's sounds to me like before he scores. Nowhere in there do those two say after you score get a penalty that could put the suspect defense 15 yards closer to giving up a momentum changing score.

 

Are the Bengals now all of a sudden a winning team? He's the one that said there was nothing to celebrate until they were a winning team. Again, I'll ask did he not celebrate b/c they weren't winning or b/c he couldn't score for 2 months?

Liking the old Chad from Palmer is not saying go get a 15 yard penalty and do a celebration if you score.

 

Talking to get TD's sounds to me like before he scores. Nowhere in there do those two say after you score get a penalty that could put the suspect defense 15 yards closer to giving up a momentum changing score.

 

Are the Bengals now all of a sudden a winning team? He's the one that said there was nothing to celebrate until they were a winning team. Again, I'll ask did he not celebrate b/c they weren't winning or b/c he couldn't score for 2 months?

 

Wow its kind of funny how you don't even talk about the other quotes. I mean every single one of the quotes I put on there were from captains on the football team..I must say you are starting to reach here in your arguments. Lets see Palmer says he likes the old Chad Johnson. And well maybe I was seeing other things back then, but the old Chad Johnson always celebrated after a TD. So when Palmer says he liked the old Chad Johnson that would mean his celebrations too. As I said before yeah if he does this every week and gets a penalty, I think everyone will have a problem with it. But this first one was just a statement to say he is back...Also Willie tells him if he needs to talk then do it, well lets see most of his talking is always about his celebrations. So when he tells him to talk, that means that would come with celebrations..Then another captain of the team in John Thorton also talks about all the things we talk about on here, and says Chad has never been a distraction to the team, and how everyone loves him. Then he even directly talks about the celebration and was not mad about it all. Then finally you have his old coach telling him to just get back to his old self, and have fun out there, and well when he was having fun he was celebrating.

 

I mean you keep bringing up the losing thing, and I keep answering it right for you, but I guess you just choosen to ignore it. I mean yeah he did say he would not celebrate when they were losing. But before this game, he had his teammates who all captains of the team, and a former coach who had a big impact on his life telling him to get back to his old self, and having fun out there. So he apparently he listened to them, and did just that. His teammates were wanting to see the old Chad. So why do you think that no one seemed to have a problem with his celebration, and even said that it was good for him...So yeah maybe you need to stop reaching here, because you don't have much to work with now. Because I just supported what I have been saying with actual quotes from his teammates who are around him EVERYDAY...

Since they put this celebration rule in place, had he been penalized for it until now? I could be wrong, but I don't think he has. So that means as I said that he had been good at doing some kind of celebration and not getting flagged for it until now...

 

Tough to celebrate a touchdown when you're not in the endzone...

Since they put this celebration rule in place, had he been penalized for it until now? I could be wrong, but I don't think he has. So that means as I said that he had been good at doing some kind of celebration and not getting flagged for it until now...

 

He had 2 TDs coming into the game this week so there isn't exactly much data to support the claim that he follows the rule most of the time.

 

I do believe we will not see it anymore this year though.

Tough to celebrate a touchdown when you're not in the endzone...

 

The penalty was in place last year as well, and I don't think he got penalized on it any time last year as well when he scored. And he was not penalized any either for his first 4 tds this year I believe as well...:sssh:

He had 2 TDs coming into the game this week so there isn't exactly much data to support the claim that he follows the rule most of the time.

 

I do believe we will not see it anymore this year though.

 

The rule was also in place last year, and he didn't get any penalties last year for Td's either...

The penalty was in place last year as well, and I don't think he got penalized on it any time last year as well when he scored. And he was not penalized any either for his first 4 tds this year as well...:sssh:

 

1. Didn't the NFL just implement the "no props" rule this year?

 

2. To be correct, he got the penalty on his 4th TD of the year. In game one, he had his HOF jacket on the sideline. Lame but no penalty. Game 2, he wanted to jump into the Dog Pound on his first TD but was at the wrong end and didn't have a Plan B. The 2nd TD was when he jumped into the end zone. 4th TD - penalty. Finally, on 5 and 6, he figured it out. Lets hope thats a trend.

Wow its kind of funny how you don't even talk about the other quotes. I mean every single one of the quotes I put on there were from captains on the football team..I must say you are starting to reach here in your arguments. Lets see Palmer says he likes the old Chad Johnson. And well maybe I was seeing other things back then, but the old Chad Johnson always celebrated after a TD. So when Palmer says he liked the old Chad Johnson that would mean his celebrations too. As I said before yeah if he does this every week and gets a penalty, I think everyone will have a problem with it. But this first one was just a statement to say he is back...Also Willie tells him if he needs to talk then do it, well lets see most of his talking is always about his celebrations. So when he tells him to talk, that means that would come with celebrations..Then another captain of the team in John Thorton also talks about all the things we talk about on here, and says Chad has never been a distraction to the team, and how everyone loves him. Then he even directly talks about the celebration and was not mad about it all. Then finally you have his old coach telling him to just get back to his old self, and have fun out there, and well when he was having fun he was celebrating.

 

I mean you keep bringing up the losing thing, and I keep answering it right for you, but I guess you just choosen to ignore it. I mean yeah he did say he would not celebrate when they were losing. But before this game, he had his teammates who all captains of the team, and a former coach who had a big impact on his life telling him to get back to his old self, and having fun out there. So he apparently he listened to them, and did just that. His teammates were wanting to see the old Chad. So why do you think that no one seemed to have a problem with his celebration, and even said that it was good for him...So yeah maybe you need to stop reaching here, because you don't have much to work with now. Because I just supported what I have been saying with actual quotes from his teammates who are around him EVERYDAY...

 

 

1 captain said he didn't mind the celebrating. Palmer had no quote in what you posted. There is a lot of specualtion that Willie and Chad don't get a long. I don't put much credence in his JUCO coach telling him he needs to celebrate. I also find it absolutely ridiculous that he needs to celebrate after he scores. CSHS also mentioned it that he celebrated or planned on celebrating all 4 of his 1st 4 TD's. He also went on record as saying he was preparing a celebration for the NE game but he got tackled at the 1 and acted like someone stole his wallet. After that he's been great about not celebrating, but those two months of non celebration coincide w/ the two months he didn't get in the end zone. Did he celebrate when he dropped the potential game winning TD in Buffalo?

1. Didn't the NFL just implement the "no props" rule this year?

 

2. To be correct, he got the penalty on his 4th TD of the year. In game one, he had his HOF jacket on the sideline. Lame but no penalty. Game 2, he wanted to jump into the Dog Pound on his first TD but was at the wrong end and didn't have a Plan B. The 2nd TD was when he jumped into the end zone. 4th TD - penalty. Finally, on 5 and 6, he figured it out. Lets hope thats a trend.

 

I thought they put that in last year, but I dont know for sure so you may be right on that...

1. Didn't the NFL just implement the "no props" rule this year?

 

2. To be correct, he got the penalty on his 4th TD of the year. In game one, he had his HOF jacket on the sideline. Lame but no penalty. Game 2, he wanted to jump into the Dog Pound on his first TD but was at the wrong end and didn't have a Plan B. The 2nd TD was when he jumped into the end zone. 4th TD - penalty. Finally, on 5 and 6, he figured it out. Lets hope thats a trend.

 

So basically you're wanting the NFL to stand for the "No Fun League", and have no celebrations regardless of whether it would be a penalty or not. Maybe it's just me, but I like being entertained.

1 captain said he didn't mind the celebrating. Palmer had no quote in what you posted. There is a lot of specualtion that Willie and Chad don't get a long. I don't put much credence in his JUCO coach telling him he needs to celebrate. I also find it absolutely ridiculous that he needs to celebrate after he scores. CSHS also mentioned it that he celebrated or planned on celebrating all 4 of his 1st 4 TD's. He also went on record as saying he was preparing a celebration for the NE game but he got tackled at the 1 and acted like someone stole his wallet. After that he's been great about not celebrating, but those two months of non celebration coincide w/ the two months he didn't get in the end zone. Did he celebrate when he dropped the potential game winning TD in Buffalo?

 

In the article I got it from your right Palmer didn't actually have a quote. They just took what he had mentioned before, that he liked the old Chad..And even if Willie and Chad don't get along, he did say that if Chad needed to talk then he should talk. Also that JUCO coach that you don't put much credence in was a guy who had a big influence on Chad's life and help point Chad in the right direction. So maybe you should put a little credence in what he said, because when you have someone who has played such a big part of your life telling you something, you usually listen. Then well Thorton is a captain of the team, which a captain is usually one of the voices for the team, and well he had no problem with it. Thorton also talked about how Chad is not a distraction at all to anyone on the team, and that they love him. Which goes against everything some of you have said. I think you really are starting to run out of stuff to say here now, because the more and more stuff comes out, the more it looks like he isn't as big of a distraction to the team as you like to believe...Also so what if he didn't score the TD and acted upset about it. I know anytime I came that close to a touchdown and came up a little short, or felt like I should have scored I was upset about it. Actually most football players would be upset about, its just that most people keep it inside. But Chad just shows his emotions, that is how he is. So why should you or anyone get so upset about it...

 

I mean I really dont know why you want to make so a big deal over him about it. People on the team who are actually around him (unlike you) have even said he is a great teammate and works harder than just about everyone in practice and during games. And now this is the first time he has been penalized for his celebrations ever, and he has done a lot of them. And well as I have shown you that there is good reason to believe that his teammates actually might have told him to go ahead and celebrate if he scores. So there was no problem with that, and his teammates didn't have a problem with him for doing it, so why should you? As I said before if he starts getting flags thrown on him every week for celebrations then I sure his teammates and I well start to have a problem with it. However I dont think we will see anymore celebration penalties on him this year...

So basically you're wanting the NFL to stand for the "No Fun League", and have no celebrations regardless of whether it would be a penalty or not. Maybe it's just me, but I like being entertained.

 

 

No, BASICALLY what I am looking for is a player who , while not liking the rule, follows it without causing his team to give up a FG prior to the half while the game is still in doubt. I don't care what the rules are. I just want them followed.

 

Maybe its just me but I like my team to be a TEAM and not have one player intentionally disregard the rules all in the name of "look at me" and a coach with the cajones to call him out on it.