November 27, 200718 yr You're telling me that Chad grabbing a camera was a spark? :lol::lol: Please... Nope, if he didn't celebrate and get that 15 yard penaly they wouldn't have won the game. Can't you just watch all of his teammates and figure out that as soon as he celebrates a TD that means they can't lose that game?:lol:
November 27, 200718 yr Nope, if he didn't celebrate and get that 15 yard penaly they wouldn't have won the game. Can't you just watch all of his teammates and figure out that as soon as he celebrates a TD that means they can't lose that game?:lol: Looked like his teamates were with him 100 per cent.After the last one everyone on the field came over to congratulate him.Sounds like some on here listen to Boomer and Bill too much.They have to talk about something so they jump on Chad.Cowher makes me sick with the way he says he wouldn't put up with anything like that.I saw the Steelers players do a lot of things over the years that was just as bad.David Fulcher said last night that he has no problem with Chad and that if the Bengals were winning no one would have said a thing.
November 27, 200718 yr Looked like his teamates were with him 100 per cent.After the last one everyone on the field came over to congratulate him.Sounds like some on here listen to Boomer and Bill too much.They have to talk about something so they jump on Chad.Cowher makes me sick with the way he says he wouldn't put up with anything like that.I saw the Steelers players do a lot of things over the years that was just as bad.David Fulcher said last night that he has no problem with Chad and that if the Bengals were winning no one would have said a thing. I saw 3 OL and a handful of other players. About 8 total. Didn't see EVERYONE. And Fulcher is right on with the complaint that we have. THEY WEREN'T WINNING and he was still acting like he was. It was no longer appropriate. It is NOT about the team when you wear a jacket promoting yourself for the HOF.
November 27, 200718 yr He loses the arrogant athlete bit and he is a key member of any future success of this team and I would be a fan of his. Just don't like athletes who think they are more important than the team. And his actions shows he does. How has what he has done shown that he believes he is more important than the team? If this was so true, most of his teammates probably would be wanting him gone, instead of sticking up for him, and telling him that they wanted him to go back to being the old Chad...
November 27, 200718 yr I agree... I have nothing wrong with Chad celebrating, just do it within the guidelines to the point where it doesn't hurt the team. I said this a few times already, and I will say it again. Just go back and look at some of the comments his teammates and even former coaches were saying to him before this game. They were telling him that they all wanted him to go back to being the old Chad Johnson. I mean even one of them even said, if Chad needs to celebrate to produce then I am all for it..So as I said before I think its not very hard to believe that his teammates probably even told him that he should go celebrate if he scores...Its kind of like what the Georgia Bulldogs did with their little celebration. If that is what it took to get them going to believe in themselves then so being. And in this case apparently this is what Chad needed to do to get himself going again. Now if he would have done it again after the first celebration, then I would have been upset about it with you all...
November 27, 200718 yr Looked like his teamates were with him 100 per cent.After the last one everyone on the field came over to congratulate him.Sounds like some on here listen to Boomer and Bill too much.They have to talk about something so they jump on Chad.Cowher makes me sick with the way he says he wouldn't put up with anything like that.I saw the Steelers players do a lot of things over the years that was just as bad.David Fulcher said last night that he has no problem with Chad and that if the Bengals were winning no one would have said a thing. When he went to the camera he didn't give his "teammates" a chance to celebrate w/ him. I didn't listen to Boomer or Bill. If Bill were the coach Chad wouldn't act like a whiny baby who needs all of the attention or he wouldn't play for Cincy. They aren't winning unless you consider 4-7 winning. He was quoted as saying he's not celebrating b/c there's nothing to celebrate until the team is back to .500. Nobody is guessing this b/c it came from his mouth.
November 27, 200718 yr When he went to the camera he didn't give his "teammates" a chance to celebrate w/ him. I didn't listen to Boomer or Bill. If Bill were the coach Chad wouldn't act like a whiny baby who needs all of the attention or he wouldn't play for Cincy. They aren't winning unless you consider 4-7 winning. He was quoted as saying he's not celebrating b/c there's nothing to celebrate until the team is back to .500. Nobody is guessing this b/c it came from his mouth. Once again see post #140
November 27, 200718 yr I said this a few times already, and I will say it again. Just go back and look at some of the comments his teammates and even former coaches were saying to him before this game. They were telling him that they all wanted him to go back to being the old Chad Johnson. I mean even one of them even said, if Chad needs to celebrate to produce then I am all for it..So as I said before I think its not very hard to believe that his teammates probably even told him that he should go celebrate if he scores...Its kind of like what the Georgia Bulldogs did with their little celebration. If that is what it took to get them going to believe in themselves then so being. And in this case apparently this is what Chad needed to do to get himself going again. Now if he would have done it again after the first celebration, then I would have been upset about it with you all... I didn't see the comments so I don't know what to go back and look at, but I'd like to take a look. I seriously doubt that Palmer said he needs to start celebrating when they were 3-7. Willie the week before made a comment that they needed to be less Hollywood. I'm guessing here b/c you like to guess, but I'm guessing that he isn't one of the ones that said he needs to start celebrating and promoting himself more. Again, just a guess.
November 27, 200718 yr I didn't see the comments so I don't know what to go back and look at, but I'd like to take a look. I seriously doubt that Palmer said he needs to start celebrating when they were 3-7. Willie the week before made a comment that they needed to be less Hollywood. I'm guessing here b/c you like to guess, but I'm guessing that he isn't one of the ones that said he needs to start celebrating and promoting himself more. Again, just a guess. And well you would be wrong about Willie Anderson because he and Palmer had this to say about Chad Johnson in a article last week before the game: Palmer has already said he likes the Old Chad. And right tackle Willie Anderson advised Johnson "if he needs to talk to score touchdowns, then start talking." This is from his old junior college coach, who had a big influence on him: You'll see it," says Charles Collins, one of his junior college coaches and closest friends. "We've talked about how he can't worry about what's written and said about him. He has to be who he is. He has to be careful about who he is, but he has to be who he is and he hasn't been doing that and it may have affected his production." "I guarantee you you're going to see the Old Chad again and I think it's going to be this week," "I think he understands that in the end it doesn't matter what other people say about him, he has to do what he has to do." Here is something from one of the captains in the team in John Thorton: "He never put the team in a bad situation. Chad's not sensitive, but I think the trade story really hurt him. He wants to be here. The same people that built him up, they loved him and all the things he did, and then the same people turned around and called him a distraction. I just think he said, 'I'm not going to put myself out there.' " He's never been a distraction to us. Everybody knows him and knows how he is and that's the way he's just trying to prepare himself," Thornton says. "It didn't put any pressure on us. Everybody likes him and if there's a blowup, it's like family. You forget about it in two minutes." So lets see we have a former coach of his,and three captains of the football team in Palmer, Willie, and Thorton saying how they loved Chad and wanted the old Chad to be back. But yeah you were right I was just guessing, when I said that people wanted the old Chad back. Honestly the only people guessing around here, is the people who say that he only cares about himself, and doesn't care about the team as much as himself. You all have had nothing to really go on to support that well Chad doesn't care about winning as much as he does himself. Actually a lot of things go against what you all have been saying. I have shown you here instances from people just last week saying how Chad is DEFINITELY not a distraction to the team, and how they all love Chad. And that they actually wanted him to go back to being his old self. But yeah I guess I was the one who was wrong when I said his teammates probably even wanted him to go ahead and celebrate, since there were things from his teammates pretty much suggesting that he does...:sssh: Oh yeah here is another comment after the game from John Thorton talking about Chads celebration: "I told him to keep it up," said defensive captain John Thornton. "It was that kind of day where everybody was playing well. If he needs to get a penalty to get going, I think that's good."
November 27, 200718 yr Are we really saying that in order for a pro athlete to perform at his peak level that he MUST be allowed to garner 15 yard penalties? We're OK with that? No one sees the problem with that?
November 27, 200718 yr Are we really saying that in order for a pro athlete to perform at his peak level that he MUST be allowed to garner 15 yard penalties? We're OK with that? No one sees the problem with that? I see no problem with it happening from time to time. If it were an every game thing, then it's a problem. As Striker said, I believe this is the 1st time he's gotten flagged.
November 27, 200718 yr Are we really saying that in order for a pro athlete to perform at his peak level that he MUST be allowed to garner 15 yard penalties? We're OK with that? No one sees the problem with that? I think it has only been penalty, not penalties so far on Chad for celebrations..Also yes for this one time yes, I do think it was ok. But now if he starts making this a weekly thing where he is costing us on 15 yard penalties then I will also have a problem with it. With that said I dont believe we will see a another celebration penalty on Chad this year...
November 27, 200718 yr I think it has only been penalty, not penalties so far on Chad for celebrations..Also yes for this one time yes, I do think it was ok. But now if he starts making this a weekly thing where he is costing us on 15 yard penalties then I will also have a problem with it. With that said I dont believe we will see a another celebration penalty on Chad this year... ...but from what others have said or implied, THAT is what Chad has to do in order to perform. If the Bengals limit his celebrations, he'll go back to alligator-arming the passes and flat out drops.
November 27, 200718 yr ...but from what others have said or implied, THAT is what Chad has to do in order to perform. If the Bengals limit his celebrations, he'll go back to alligator-arming the passes and flat out drops. Well I think need to just let him have fun, because he does play better that way. And if he wants to celebrate Td's go right ahead, but he just needs to go back to making sure that his celebrations don't cost them a penalty, and he had been good at doing that until this one. So I think we will see him continue to celebrate in some ways, but just not ways that would cost the team a penalty. I think this one was just a statement that he is getting back to his old self. But as I said before if he starts getting flags for celebrations every game, then I will have a problem with it as well...
November 27, 200718 yr Are we really saying that in order for a pro athlete to perform at his peak level that he MUST be allowed to garner 15 yard penalties? We're OK with that? No one sees the problem with that? Thats what he have to do to put up with Levi Jones. It's only a 10 yard penalty for him though.
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