October 30, 200718 yr It's also lame to hear people complaining about the score being run up in a professional game...this isn't college football where I-AA schools go into the Big House (OK, bad analogy:lol:), but you get my point...or high school when elite teams are forced to play struggling programs in their district...these are professional athletes, most of whom are paid more in a year than I'll make in my life. Give me a break...show some pride and stop somebody...if you can't, then just man up, face the facts and live with it. It's pathetic to hear a grown man who plays for the Redskins, getting paid half a million at minimum crying about a team throwing a TD pass with 9 minutes to go to put his team down 45-0... ...you hear that Randall Godfrey. It's the world's smallest violin playing "Just For The Redskins." Go home and cry to your mama, because I sure don't want to hear it. One word: P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C That's fine, but don't complain if someone "takes care of it on the field" and puts that QB out.
October 31, 200718 yr C'mon mom, all the kids are doing it. :sleep: This is such a tired excuse to look past cheating. So if this is pretty much SOP for all the teams in the league that believe in scouting, preparing, etc. (i.e. NOT the Bengals) is it cheating? For my money, I think Mangini had an axe to grind and he knew he couldn't beat Bellichick on the field. Should any and all Jets wins be forfeited as well? And the Browns too right? After all, it is common knowledge that they had several YEARS worth of footage of the signals. Bellichick himself said he had a file on each offensive coordinator for the last 15 years. If your going to say one teams wins are tainted, they all have to be, as they ALL cheated. You tell me, which is worse, what Bellichick did, or the guy that went along with "cheating" (your words not mine) to win a couple of Super Bowls, which allowed him to jump ship and become a head man himself, and then he blows the whistle on the Pats. Cowardice if you ask me, and someone I'd never want coaching my team.
October 31, 200718 yr Nope, he's the only one who has been proven to who have done it. Big difference. I make it a practice of mine not to convict until proven guilty. I'm still trying to figure out the "models in the G section thingy". Sorry I'm a little dense. I don't get out from under my rock enough. Webster's seeking models in the G section was rhetoric for getting your picture next to the word gullible. I can understand you not wanting to go on a witch hunt for those that did the same as Bellichick. BUT, we CAN say for sure that at least two coaches did the same as Bellichick, or at least knew of the actions and went along with them. Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini. Personally, I found rather humorous that Mangini wasn't punished for his knowledge of what Bellichick was doing and his lack of reporting it to the NFL. I wonder how he knew exactly where to look? Mangini was on the staff in the last 10 years, which is how many years of tape the Pats have, so, yeah, I think we can safely say he cheated too.
October 31, 200718 yr Webster's seeking models in the G section was rhetoric for getting your picture next to the word gullible. I can understand you not wanting to go on a witch hunt for those that did the same as Bellichick. BUT, we CAN say for sure that at least two coaches did the same as Bellichick, or at least knew of the actions and went along with them. Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini. Personally, I found rather humorous that Mangini wasn't punished for his knowledge of what Bellichick was doing and his lack of reporting it to the NFL. I wonder how he knew exactly where to look? Mangini was on the staff in the last 10 years, which is how many years of tape the Pats have, so, yeah, I think we can safely say he cheated too. Easy,,, or you'll take some luster of the 3 previous Super Bowls. I really am indifferent to the Pats one way or the other,, take'em or leave''em . I just like the stand the NFL took on their indescretions. Also if your going to give me a personality critique, at least put some more posts under your belt, make some friends, and then fire away. BTW. I'm probably the least gullible person you'll ever type at.
October 31, 200718 yr So if this is pretty much SOP for all the teams in the league that believe in scouting, preparing, etc. (i.e. NOT the Bengals) is it cheating? For my money, I think Mangini had an axe to grind and he knew he couldn't beat Bellichick on the field. Should any and all Jets wins be forfeited as well? And the Browns too right? After all, it is common knowledge that they had several YEARS worth of footage of the signals. Bellichick himself said he had a file on each offensive coordinator for the last 15 years. If your going to say one teams wins are tainted, they all have to be, as they ALL cheated. You tell me, which is worse, what Bellichick did, or the guy that went along with "cheating" (your words not mine) to win a couple of Super Bowls, which allowed him to jump ship and become a head man himself, and then he blows the whistle on the Pats. Cowardice if you ask me, and someone I'd never want coaching my team. You're not very good at spin, just give it up. They were caught cheating, they were fined for it, eos. They weren't punished hard enough IMO, but there's nothing I can do about that. They cheated, regardless of the fact that you can't seem to come to terms with it.
October 31, 200718 yr You're not very good at spin, just give it up. They were caught cheating, they were fined for it, eos. They weren't punished hard enough IMO, but there's nothing I can do about that. They cheated, regardless of the fact that you can't seem to come to terms with it. Brilliant the way you can speak out of both sides of your mouth. So on one hand the NFL should come down HARDER on the Pats, but yet other coaches involved in the "cheating scandal" shouldn't be punished for not coming forward with information? This was not a new revalation in the NFL, it was a man with an axe to grind.....period. I came to terms with the fact that the NFL was going to make an example out of Bellichick long ago. However, you do seem to be having some trouble coming to terms with your hate for all things Patriots and Bellichick. You don't like them, and your bias and distaste shows through in each and every one of your posts. How's that for spin?
October 31, 200718 yr Easy,,, or you'll take some luster of the 3 previous Super Bowls. I really am indifferent to the Pats one way or the other,, take'em or leave''em . I just like the stand the NFL took on their indescretions. Also if your going to give me a personality critique, at least put some more posts under your belt, make some friends, and then fire away. BTW. I'm probably the least gullible person you'll ever type at. I'm not a Pats fan either. Just believe in the truth, the whole truth.... As for the personality critique (that went way over your head), it wasn't intended to be.........just a little friendly ribbing. About having more posts; I have plenty enough to know everyone on here pretty well. They may not all be with the same name though.....:sssh:
October 31, 200718 yr That's fine, but don't complain if someone "takes care of it on the field" and puts that QB out. Pathetic wouldn't begin to describe any player who purposely injured another player with a blatant cheap shot...under any circumstances. For everyone saying someone is going to "take care of it on the field", what do you think that will do for that player's career...or for the team that he plays on? You think there won't be consequences for purposely trying to injure a player? Give me a break. No wonder these athletes act like babies...that's how they're treated by everyone. You guys are acting like this is pee-wee football where one coach is just ruthlessly pounding an obviously inferior squad of children...these are grown men who are paid millions of dollars to perform. Heaven forbid they get their feelings hurt from getting beat too bad by the mean old Patriots and mean old Belichick.
October 31, 200718 yr Pathetic wouldn't begin to describe any player who purposely injured another player with a blatant cheap shot...under any circumstances. For everyone saying someone is going to "take care of it on the field", what do you think that will do for that player's career...or for the team that he plays on? You think there won't be consequences for purposely trying to injure a player? Give me a break. No wonder these athletes act like babies...that's how they're treated by everyone. You guys are acting like this is pee-wee football where one coach is just ruthlessly pounding an obviously inferior squad of children...these are grown men who are paid millions of dollars to perform. Heaven forbid they get their feelings hurt from getting beat too bad by the mean old Patriots and mean old Belichick. Didn't seem to hurt Bill Romanski's career. UNFORTUNATELY.
October 31, 200718 yr Didn't seem to hurt Bill Romanski's career. UNFORTUNATELY. That was in practice though...it wasn't witness on national television...if someone did it in a game, I think the outcry would be far worse. Or are you referencing something I'm not aware of.
October 31, 200718 yr Brilliant the way you can speak out of both sides of your mouth. So on one hand the NFL should come down HARDER on the Pats, but yet other coaches involved in the "cheating scandal" shouldn't be punished for not coming forward with information? This was not a new revalation in the NFL, it was a man with an axe to grind.....period. I came to terms with the fact that the NFL was going to make an example out of Bellichick long ago. However, you do seem to be having some trouble coming to terms with your hate for all things Patriots and Bellichick. You don't like them, and your bias and distaste shows through in each and every one of your posts. How's that for spin? I'll repeat myself for you since you didn't seem to take it all in the first time. I don't hate Bellicheck, I think he's a great coach that didn't need to cheat, he did, he got caught and fined, now his season is tainted IMO. Brady is a classless jerk IMO. I don't hate the Patriots, I think they are a really talented team that got caught up in something they never should have. I can't stand Brady, he's a classless jerk IMO. There was no need for them to cheat. Yet they did, they got burned, but not near enough IMO. Brady is a classless jerk IMO. Nobody else in the league has been caught doing what the Pats did, therefore they should not be punished. If you have some proof that they did, by all means lets see it. I can't stand Brady, he's a classless jerk IMO. And lastly, you still aren't doing a good job with your spin attempt.
October 31, 200718 yr Barkley just said on PTI that in professional sports if you think the other team is running the score up on you then you should "take out" one of their best players.
October 31, 200718 yr Pathetic wouldn't begin to describe any player who purposely injured another player with a blatant cheap shot...under any circumstances. For everyone saying someone is going to "take care of it on the field", what do you think that will do for that player's career...or for the team that he plays on? You think there won't be consequences for purposely trying to injure a player? Give me a break. No wonder these athletes act like babies...that's how they're treated by everyone. You guys are acting like this is pee-wee football where one coach is just ruthlessly pounding an obviously inferior squad of children...these are grown men who are paid millions of dollars to perform. Heaven forbid they get their feelings hurt from getting beat too bad by the mean old Patriots and mean old Belichick. I see you don't get it either. Let me explain what I mean. One doesn't have to plan to injure another player, one just has to get caught up in the heat of the moment. That wouldn't make it intentional, all a guy has to do is loose his cool for a second and anything could happen. A harder than usual shot and Brady could go down with a concussion or who knows what else. If you don't think that could happen, you're kidding yourself.
October 31, 200718 yr Barkley just said on PTI that in professional sports if you think the other team is running the score up on you then you should "take out" one of their best players. Is there such thing as running up the score in Professional sports? I think that is the actual question here.
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