October 19, 200718 yr Again, boo freaking hoo. :cry: What kind of wusses are we raising, kids NEED to learn to COPE. Apparently so do some adults as proven by poor little mistreated Ellen. :rolleyes: I'm liking you more and more with every post. I'm sick of pets and children running households in this country. People need to get a grip on what is essential in life. Simple economics, distinguish between needs and wants. Don't cry over spilled milk, and when a pet dies, is lost, or taken away get a new one if you feel bad. Carry on....
October 19, 200718 yr I think this whole situation should be crushed by a giant beer can. Nice! :lol: Truthfully, though, Henry 521 and Watusi hit the nail on the head. This is her getting at the problem before the tabloids do.
October 19, 200718 yr The whole thing has been so traumatic for Ellen that she's cancelled tapings on Friday and Monday. Wonder what she would do if something REALLY bad happened to her?
October 19, 200718 yr Wonder what she would do if something REALLY bad happened to her? Exactly. If we called off work because a pet died or was lost we'd be looking for new jobs.
October 19, 200718 yr I like Ellen. Mutts & Moms deserves to go out of business. Ellen compounded her mistake by trying to use the TV as a bully pulpit. I do believe Ellen is genuinely sad, and I also think she is using her genuine sadness as a genuine publicity stunt. However, 'IggyGate' needs to fade into oblivion and not hang around like so many of these other ridiculous news events.
October 19, 200718 yr As a pet owner, I know they become part of the family and are loved. And I understand Ellen's emotion about the situation. BUT, this is something that needs to be carried out in private life, not on a nationally syndicated TV show. Nice sentiment, wrong forum.
October 19, 200718 yr I like Ellen. Mutts & Moms deserves to go out of business. Ellen compounded her mistake by trying to use the TV as a bully pulpit. I do believe Ellen is genuinely sad, and I also think she is using her genuine sadness as a genuine publicity stunt. However, 'IggyGate' needs to fade into oblivion and not hang around like so many of these other ridiculous news events. :thumb:
October 19, 200718 yr Some on here must never have had children who lost a pet before. Children become attached very quickly and I have no problem in Ellen being upset about this entire situation and the impact on those kids who were giving a pet a home. It is not my right or anyone elses to tell someone how to feel if put in that situation. Doesn't make them 'wusses' or anything else. I have lost my share of pets over the years, one VERY recently. And guess what, .. this grown man cried like a baby. I hope the organization has to change their policies. No, pets aren't human. However, they can become members of a family. In the past 9 months, I have lost my 12 year old nephew to a horrible house fire and a pet. Naturally, there is no comparison between the two losses and the level of pain my family and I felt. However, discounting someone emotions just because you have no compassion is just heartless IMHO. As far as the calling off work situation, that is between her and her network, producers, etc. If they have an issue with it, they will deal with it. I have had employees who worked for me who NEVER missed work, even when ill, who have called off due to the death of a pet or taking the pet to the vet. Since there was no pattern of poor attendance or issues with job performance, and they had so many days of Personal Time to use as they saw fit, I had no problem with it. If they don't have an issue with it, then why should any of us?
October 19, 200718 yr Some on here must never have had children who lost a pet before. Children become attached very quickly and I have no problem in Ellen being upset about this entire situation and the impact on those kids who were giving a pet a home. It is not my right or anyone elses to tell someone how to feel if put in that situation. Doesn't make them 'wusses' or anything else. I have lost my share of pets over the years, one VERY recently. And guess what, .. this grown man cried like a baby. I hope the organization has to change their policies. No, pets aren't human. However, they can become members of a family. In the past 9 months, I have lost my 12 year old nephew to a horrible house fire and a pet. Naturally, there is no comparison between the two losses and the level of pain my family and I felt. However, discounting someone emotions just because you have no compassion is just heartless IMHO. As far as the calling off work situation, that is between her and her network, producers, etc. If they have an issue with it, they will deal with it. I have had employees who worked for me who NEVER missed work, even when ill, who have called off due to the death of a pet or taking the pet to the vet. Since there was no pattern of poor attendance or issues with job performance, and they had so many days of Personal Time to use as they saw fit, I had no problem with it. If they don't have an issue with it, then why should any of us? What about the use of the television to air her differences? What possible purpose could that have served? I see 1) she has access to something none of the rest of us have, so she is essentially using it to put extra pressure on Mutts & Moms 2) it is very emotional publicity for her; is there anything else? A new family has the dog. When it has been with that family for 2 weeks, will Ellen still want to take it away from those children? Her response, if any, will be interesting. By the way, the clauses you describe are standard in animal rescue contracts to prevent situations of dog market resale and also situations of an owner giving it away to another abusive home. There is a justifiable market reason for the clause. I don't think they should have enforced it in this case, but I don't agree they should be required to remove the clause from their contracts.
October 19, 200718 yr What about the use of the television to air her differences? What possible purpose could that have served? I see 1) she has access to something none of the rest of us have, so she is essentially using it to put extra pressure on Mutts & Moms 2) it is very emotional publicity for her; is there anything else? A new family has the dog. When it has been with that family for 2 weeks, will Ellen still want to take it away from those children? Her response, if any, will be interesting. By the way, the clauses you describe are standard in animal rescue contracts to prevent situations of dog market resale and also situations of an owner giving it away to another abusive home. There is a justifiable market reason for the clause. I don't think they should have enforced it in this case, but I don't agree they should be required to remove the clause from their contracts. I agree that she has a public forum that very few have at their disposal. I too will be interested in her reaction if the puppy is placed with another family for 2 weeks and then taken away. I understand the clauses, however, should it not be based on the situation you gave, taking the pet from an abusive situation as opposed to just taking it away because they can? I agree that it should not have been removed in this instance, but the fact is that it was and they have been called on their action and now face public scrutiny because of who was involved. Maybe it causes them to revisit how they enforce their policies not just whether they have them. My biggest issue on here is the lack of regard for the emotions involved by some of our posters. Those who believe that these kids have no right to be upset by this and are categorized as 'wusses' need to step back and show at least a little compassion.
October 19, 200718 yr I agree that she has a public forum that very few have at their disposal. I too will be interested in her reaction if the puppy is placed with another family for 2 weeks and then taken away. I understand the clauses, however, should it not be based on the situation you gave, taking the pet from an abusive situation as opposed to just taking it away because they can? I agree that it should not have been removed in this instance, but the fact is that it was and they have been called on their action and now face public scrutiny because of who was involved. Maybe it causes them to revisit how they enforce their policies not just whether they have them. Yes, as stated, Mutts & Moms needs to go out of business.
October 19, 200718 yr Another take: http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-lspet1022,0,6580104.column
October 19, 200718 yr Author I'm liking you more and more with every post. I'm sick of pets and children running households in this country. People need to get a grip on what is essential in life. Simple economics, distinguish between needs and wants. Don't cry over spilled milk, and when a pet dies, is lost, or taken away get a new one if you feel bad. Carry on.... :thumb:
October 19, 200718 yr Author Let me explain the situation with RTS for you...with a visual::irked: I'm just honest and realistic.
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