I don't either. I don't have a problem with that part.

 

If the officer had the gun, and was continuing to POINT his handgun at 2's roommate while 2's roommate had hands on head and out of car, and continued to do that until another officer arrived, that does seem somehwat over the top, unless the other officer arriving was to cuff the roommate. I do know it IS SOP for a second officer to circle for assist on almost ANY traffic stop, particularly one with a weapon.

I don't care how "up front" you are! It takes less than a second to go from compliant up front citizen to cop killer.

 

And I don't blame him for not holstering either. If you have one weapon on your person, you could very likely have a back-up weapon.

So now I'll ask again, why wasn't anyone else in this thread pulled on? Just like you said, if you've got one gun, maybe you've got more.

 

I understand the points you're making, but you have to admit that if you followed your logic to the end they should have their service weapon out on every stop, and certainly on any where the person has already shown that they might be packing.

If the officer had the gun, and was continuing to POINT his handgun at 2's roommate while 2's roommate had hands on head and out of car, and continued to do that until another officer arrived, that does seem somehwat over the top, unless the other officer arriving was to cuff the roommate. I do know it IS SOP for a second officer to circle for assist on almost ANY traffic stop, particularly one with a weapon.

That's another part that I have no problem with.

So now I'll ask again, why wasn't anyone else in this thread pulled on? Just like you said, if you've got one gun, maybe you've got more.

 

I understand the points you're making, but you have to admit that if you followed your logic to the end they should have their service weapon out on every stop, and certainly on any where the person has already shown that they might be packing.

I think it's just a personal judgement call.

 

Contrary to popular belief, every single movement an officer makes is not dictated by procedure. Many things are; but many other actions have to be based on the officers training and experience.

 

As long as no one was harmed or had their rights violated, I don't see anything wrong with it.

Why did he have his weapon in his hip for? I would assume that if he had the weapon in his glovebox or under his seat that the officer may not have went so far to the extreme here.

Im not saying what the officer did was right but I can't say that I would have handled the situation any different. You gotta look out for your own safety today. If I pulled over someone who had a gun on their body, permit or not, I think in the situation I would have done the same as the officer did. You can never be too careful. Better to take control of the situation in the way that he did rather than be lying on the interstate dead because you didnt want to offend someone.

 

I can also understand how it shocked your buddy though, sometimes it's best to put yourself in the other persons shoes.

I have a question....After I get a couple answers, I'll let you know why I wanted to know. What is standard procedure (if there is one) on how officers handle an individual who they've pulled over for a traffic stop that has their concealed carry permit and a weapon on their person?

Does it matter on time of day, locale or the situation on how an officer might handle this situation? For example, would an answer be a little jumpier at 2:00 AM instead of 2:00 PM. Let's say it is a rural community with in county license plate compared to a urban location with out of state license plate.

 

I know one thing, I have tremendous amount of respect for officers, fireman, etc. Each traffic stop, it could be the last one for an officer. Each fire could be the last one for the fireman. Tremendous respect for what they provide to our society and I can't say that enough.

 

As a teacher, I feel I try and contribute to our society but my life (for the most part) is not on the line when I walk into the classroom.

As a teacher, I feel I try and contribute to our society but my life (for the most part) is not on the line when I walk into the classroom.

I don't know! That third period class has some pretty rough customers in there!

Does it matter on time of day, locale or the situation on how an officer might handle this situation? For example, would an answer be a little jumpier at 2:00 AM instead of 2:00 PM. Let's say it is a rural community with in county license plate compared to a urban location with out of state license plate.

 

I know one thing, I have tremendous amount of respect for officers, fireman, etc. Each traffic stop, it could be the last one for an officer. Each fire could be the last one for the fireman. Tremendous respect for what they provide to our society and I can't say that enough.

 

As a teacher, I feel I try and contribute to our society but my life (for the most part) is not on the line when I walk into the classroom.

 

Very true lbbc. Police officers,fire fighters,emt workers, soldiers and many others are very underpaid heros.

 

As for your second statement, sadly in the world we live in today, your life is on the line everyday you walk into a classroom.

Also, it might be pertinent to know just how much time elapsed from the time he took the gun to when the other cop arrived, under 2 mins, which in this case probably seemed like a lifetime then I'm ok with it, however if 10 mins passed and he continued to point then thats weird, or the time of day, did he put his gun back in the holster but kept his hand on the weapon?

The 2nd cop didn't arive until 5 or 6 minutes into the inital stop. And this was about 5:30 or 6:00 yesterday evening in the Hurstborne Pkwy. area of Louisville.

Deuce,

 

Was the gun concealed on his right hip or was he wearing it fully exposed like a police officer does?

The 2nd cop didn't arive until 5 or 6 minutes into the inital stop. And this was about 5:30 or 6:00 yesterday evening in the Hurstborne Pkwy. area of Louisville.

How long into the stop was the gun drawn though?

How long into the stop was the gun drawn though?

 

He said probably almost 5 minutes.

Deuce,

 

Was the gun concealed on his right hip or was he wearing it fully exposed like a police officer does?

 

He said at the time his t-shirt was over it, but that it was exposed on the outside of his shorts.