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Cincinnati media...No NKY highlights

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It MAY NOT work. But a 2 hour show once a week is more coverage than none at all. If it doesn't work, I can say I tried.

 

 

Best of luck.

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Hurd?

 

affirmative.

What is there — about 315K people in just Boone/Kenton/Campbell? And perhaps another 110-115K in the next ring of counties?

 

Folks, that's a large metro area that rivals the Lexington area in terms of population. Yet it's one of the most grossly overlooked and underserved areas in the country as far as the media goes.

 

Why is there not a regional daily newspaper (with a strong Web presence as well) covering this area? And no, the Enquirer and Post do not cover this area. Heck, it wasn't until just a few months ago that the Enquirer started sending its Kentucky edition to Gallatin Co., and probably most of the other ring counties surrounding Boone/Kenton/Campbell. Before, those areas only got the Cincinnati Metro edition, as though folks in Warsaw and Carrollton care about what goes on in Avondale.

 

Surely there are some wealthy folks in that area who also wonder this same thing. I have access to the people who could make such a venture happen, from a practical standpoint. All we would need is the financial backing.

 

The days of starting regional daily newspapers are over. More are dying than being started (how much longer will the Post last?).

 

Aside from that, from where I sit in NKY, I'm pretty okay with the coverage the Enquirer and or Post provide me. Stories from Union to Erlanger to Cold Spring most every day (especially the new Enquirer NKY section). Also stories from Blue Ash, Withamsville, and Cheviot where I may work, or a co-worker or friend may live. I'd much rather read news from those areas than from Sparta, Carrollton, Maysville, or Falmouth.

The days of starting regional daily newspapers are over. More are dying than being started (how much longer will the Post last?).

 

Aside from that, from where I sit in NKY, I'm pretty okay with the coverage the Enquirer and or Post provide me. Stories from Union to Erlanger to Cold Spring most every day (especially the new Enquirer NKY section). Also stories from Blue Ash, Withamsville, and Cheviot where I may work, or a co-worker or friend may live. I'd much rather read news from those areas than from Sparta, Carrollton, Maysville, or Falmouth.

 

The Post shot itself in the foot repeatedly over the years by not properly recognizing an audience it already had access to. All they had to do was shift their coverage south and they would've been one of the bigger moneymakers in the Scripps organizatiion. Instead they chose to compete with the Enquirer in Cincy while remaining an afternoon daily. Dumb-de-dumb-dumb.

 

And today's newspaper startups — or at least the one I'd like to see — can't win on a strictly print basis. They must offer exceptional content on the Web, such as video, photos and other Web extras to keep the customers coming back.

 

And finally, you're probably OK with the coverage the Post and Enquirer have given you because you've never known what proper coverage of the area is. You've been settling for less because you've known nothing else. There's no reason a paper can't cover the entire area I aforementioned, and do it economically and adequately.This isn't my original idea, but the idea of a longtime Kentucky newspaperman who worked in prominent positions at the Ky Post, the Paducah Sun, the Memphis Commercial-Appeal and others. He's the one who planted it in my head, and I know that with his guidance we could make it work, and work to the point that the Enquirer wouldn't bother with NoKy because they'd have no chance to compete.

 

Folks, you've been settling for less for too long, especially in the areas outside the I-275 loop. You could have a more comprehensive coverage of your area, and you deserve it. We just need the start-up money. There's already huge potential for talent-mining at NKU.

We like to call it the Colonel Journal.

 

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And today's newspaper startups — or at least the one I'd like to see — can't win on a strictly print basis. They must offer exceptional content on the Web, such as video, photos and other Web extras to keep the customers coming back.

This is, sadly, true. Traditional print newspapers are an endangered species. You have to offer more.

 

I was really sad to see the failure of the recent attempt to start a NKY newspaper. It seemed like a good paper, and even won awards. But their business model was bad and it just didn't work.

 

As for high school radio - I agree with cshs81. This format (and BGP specifically) is best suited to serve that audience. High schools fans are just too much of a segmented audience to make broadcasting a practical approach.

The Post shot itself in the foot repeatedly over the years by not properly recognizing an audience it already had access to. All they had to do was shift their coverage south and they would've been one of the bigger moneymakers in the Scripps organizatiion. Instead they chose to compete with the Enquirer in Cincy while remaining an afternoon daily. Dumb-de-dumb-dumb.

 

And today's newspaper startups — or at least the one I'd like to see — can't win on a strictly print basis. They must offer exceptional content on the Web, such as video, photos and other Web extras to keep the customers coming back.

 

And finally, you're probably OK with the coverage the Post and Enquirer have given you because you've never known what proper coverage of the area is. You've been settling for less because you've known nothing else. There's no reason a paper can't cover the entire area I aforementioned, and do it economically and adequately.This isn't my original idea, but the idea of a longtime Kentucky newspaperman who worked in prominent positions at the Ky Post, the Paducah Sun, the Memphis Commercial-Appeal and others. He's the one who planted it in my head, and I know that with his guidance we could make it work, and work to the point that the Enquirer wouldn't bother with NoKy because they'd have no chance to compete.

 

Folks, you've been settling for less for too long, especially in the areas outside the I-275 loop. You could have a more comprehensive coverage of your area, and you deserve it. We just need the start-up money. There's already huge potential for talent-mining at NKU.

 

Good post. :thumb: It was interesting, and I agree with parts of it.

 

In the first graph, I'll agree afternoon dailies were a thing of the past 20 years ago, how is this one still standing? But, in the last 10 years the Kentucky Post coverage of Ohio became almost nothing. That move kept the paper alive. Recently, the merged front section of the Post now provides more Ohio coverage, and less NKY of course. But, the Enquirer has expanded NKY coverage.

 

You're idea of using the Web is right on if any new paper has a prayer of working. Not a new idea, but at least you've seen that far in advance.

 

As for the last part of your post though, I think you're more wrong than right. I'm not a moron (I almost never get called one anymore.) I don't think I SETTLE for coverage because I don't know what's better. That would be a hard sell for me. I like and am happy with coverage from Greater Cincinnati, on both sides of the river.

 

Many people in Boone, Kenton, and Campbell counties have family, friends, and business associates just north of the river. Far fewer have those same contacts in the rural counties to the south.

Do you expect anything else from Ohio?

You would think that Channel 19, since the license they use to operate, is issued from Newport, Kentucky would cover more Kentucky news and sports. Now they do cover some, but not even as much as they do for the Cincinnati schools. Seems to me that when it is time for them to renew there license to operate, many could write to the FCC (at least I think it is the FCC who grants Television's stations the right to operate) complaining about the Kentucky coverage from a Kentucky licensed Television station.....

8th region coverage? Don't hold your breath on that one. SK will get coverage when they play the high-profile 9th region teams but that's it. I agree that SK-Scott's environment would be good to cover but it just depends on who else is playing that night in Cincinnati.

 

Is your show actually going to on the radio or will it be a net broadcast?

 

If you watch they will start covering when they do good like the post who highlights Mason Co. as a Northren School this year because they are good. They seem to like to pick up the good teams and forget about the ones who do not make NKY look as good. Really suprised they have not picked up on Gallatin alot more this year.

The the 8th and 10th get a lot of coverage when the snow hits. :D

The the 8th and 10th get a lot of coverage when the snow hits. :D

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Radio. It will also be able to be streamed from the radio station. I have always maintained that these smaller schools do not get the coverage they deserve.

 

Take for example, the Gallatin Co./Shelby County game. This was the biggest game that has been played in Gallatin County in some time. This is when Wade was still playing. David vs. Goliath. Gallatin Co. takes Shelby to overtime and arguably should have won in regulation (there's already a thread for that). What coverage was there apart from our broadcast and The Gallatin County News?? None.

 

It's going to be my job to bring games like this to the forefront on this show. Not just for Northern Kentucky but Greater Cincinnati and Southeast Indiana as well. Believe me, Simon Kenton holds a strong place in my heart too, but the other schools in the eighth region deserve some pub as well.

 

It's going to be about players as well as teams. People have heard about Hester at SK, but I guarantee you that people in the 9th region do not know who Dan Neeley is unless they have played Owen County. It's that sort of thing that I want to bring out.

 

No one is doing this. That's why I am going to try my best to.:thumb:

Way to go Buttels! Since you have experienced the excitement of watching the teams and players in the 8th, you know it's a special atmosphere. Neeley and other players do not get the attention they deserve like those so called high profile teams in the 9th. Don't allow the negative posts hender your enthusiasm. Who knows, your fight may help nudge some college coaches to take closer looks at players like Neeley. If your broadcast can help kids from counties that don't normally get coverage, get a college education, well then; it is so worth it! From one parent-Thank You::lol:

Don't allow the negative posts hender your enthusiasm.
We're not trying to hinder him. Just trying to point out the many inherent difficulties in trying to serve that audience, in that way.
This is, sadly, true. Traditional print newspapers are an endangered species. You have to offer more.

 

I was really sad to see the failure of the recent attempt to start a NKY newspaper. It seemed like a good paper, and even won awards. But their business model was bad and it just didn't work.

 

As for high school radio - I agree with cshs81. This format (and BGP specifically) is best suited to serve that audience. High schools fans are just too much of a segmented audience to make broadcasting a practical approach.

 

The Challenger — I'm guessing that's what you're referring to — only won awards because they were in a soft category with no competition. Kind of like when I won a bronze medal at the Bluegrass State Games in a competition that only featured three competitors.

 

The Challenger's problem is they should've gone daily, like I talked about.

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