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Tyler Fryman - Mr. Football Conversation

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Tyler Fryman (ATH, Beechwood)

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🗞️ | He catches, runs, blocks, tackles, and even punts, according to Beechwood's stat sheet. Fryman is a viable contender for both Mr. 🏈 And Mr. ⚾.... a throwback All-American archetype.

Season to date: 29 receptions for 469 yards and 3 TDs | 4 rushing TDs | 1 pick-six

And I have heard he is just as great young man off the competitive field.

Volume is a stat; impact is a game-changer. While other Mr. Football candidates might finish the year with higher raw touch counts, no player in Kentucky does more with the touches they actually get than Tyler Fryman.

The fact that he only plays a half at best per game is the ultimate argument for his Mr. Football case. Think about this on Tyler Fryman: Beechwood is 5-0 and blowing teams out so fast that they are pulling their 4-star SEC weapon by or before halftime to keep him healthy for November.

Look at the math. In only 2.5 total games' worth of actual played time across 5 weeks, Fryman has racked up 29 catches, 469 receiving yards, 7 total offensive touchdowns, and a pick-six. He is averaging a massive 16.1 yards per catch and scores nearly every four times he catches or runs the ball. If he played full 4-quarter games like the guys you are comparing him to, he would be tracking toward 1,000 yards and 15 touchdowns by mid-season. He is putting up first-team All-State numbers in essentially half-game increments.

Judging a player solely on offensive touches completely ignores how he dominates the rest of the game. Fryman isn't just standing on the sidelines waiting for the offense to take the field; he is a lockdown defensive back who completely takes away one side of the field, and he flips field position as a punter and a returner. He plays roughly 120 snaps a game across all three phases. While a high-volume running back, quarterback, tight end or a wide receiver is sitting on the bench resting, Fryman is out there actively affecting the outcome of the game.

Other candidates are staying on the field in the 4th quarter trying to pad their stats against tired, worn-down defenses. Fryman is standing on the sideline in a baseball cap by the 3rd quarter because his job is already done. Dominance isn't about how many minutes you stay on the field; it's about how fast you destroy the opponent while you are out there.

He is a 4-star SEC commit, a state champion sprinter, and a potential MLB draft pick. He is a throwback All-American archetype who doesn't need to be run into the dirt with empty volume to prove he is the best player in the state. Pound-for-pound, touch-for-touch, he is the most efficient and dangerous player in Kentucky high school football, and he is the true definition of Mr. Football. On and Off the field.

1 hour ago, The_Bull44 said:

Volume is a stat; impact is a game-changer. While other Mr. Football candidates might finish the year with higher raw touch counts, no player in Kentucky does more with the touches they actually get than Tyler Fryman.

The fact that he only plays a half at best per game is the ultimate argument for his Mr. Football case. Think about this on Tyler Fryman: Beechwood is 5-0 and blowing teams out so fast that they are pulling their 4-star SEC weapon by or before halftime to keep him healthy for November.

Look at the math. In only 2.5 total games' worth of actual played time across 5 weeks, Fryman has racked up 29 catches, 469 receiving yards, 7 total offensive touchdowns, and a pick-six. He is averaging a massive 16.1 yards per catch and scores nearly every four times he catches or runs the ball. If he played full 4-quarter games like the guys you are comparing him to, he would be tracking toward 1,000 yards and 15 touchdowns by mid-season. He is putting up first-team All-State numbers in essentially half-game increments.

Judging a player solely on offensive touches completely ignores how he dominates the rest of the game. Fryman isn't just standing on the sidelines waiting for the offense to take the field; he is a lockdown defensive back who completely takes away one side of the field, and he flips field position as a punter and a returner. He plays roughly 120 snaps a game across all three phases. While a high-volume running back, quarterback, tight end or a wide receiver is sitting on the bench resting, Fryman is out there actively affecting the outcome of the game.

Other candidates are staying on the field in the 4th quarter trying to pad their stats against tired, worn-down defenses. Fryman is standing on the sideline in a baseball cap by the 3rd quarter because his job is already done. Dominance isn't about how many minutes you stay on the field; it's about how fast you destroy the opponent while you are out there.

He is a 4-star SEC commit, a state champion sprinter, and a potential MLB draft pick. He is a throwback All-American archetype who doesn't need to be run into the dirt with empty volume to prove he is the best player in the state. Pound-for-pound, touch-for-touch, he is the most efficient and dangerous player in Kentucky high school football, and he is the true definition of Mr. Football. On and Off the field.

Now you have me curious....what "guys" is he being compared to?

35 minutes ago, Unrivaled97 said:

Now you have me curious....what "guys" is he being compared to?

Anyone that may be in discussion for Mr. Football.

38 minutes ago, Unrivaled97 said:

Now you have me curious....what "guys" is he being compared to?

6 minutes ago, The_Bull44 said:

Anyone that may be in discussion for Mr. Football.

Got it. Might want to do some more research before making that statement. Anyway, I like your argument about playing defense and also being a lockdown DB much better in addition to his offensive and special teams prowess. It has a lot more validity to it.

1 hour ago, Unrivaled97 said:

Got it. Might want to do some more research before making that statement. Anyway, I like your argument about playing defense and also being a lockdown DB much better in addition to his offensive and special teams prowess. It has a lot more validity to it.

What research should he have done? He just said other candidates. I don't see the need. He gave a nice rundown of his history nothing degrading to anyone else.

2 hours ago, in the booth said:

What research should he have done? He just said other candidates. I don't see the need. He gave a nice rundown of his history nothing degrading to anyone else.

Agreed, I thought it was a great rundown and like I said, I like the argument about also playing defense as I think that is the strongest case to be made. I don't want to hijack this topic about Tyler Fryman and I think he has an excellent case for Mr. Football, so this is the last comment I will have other than to praise Fryman. Not all "guys" he is being compared to play in the 2nd half nor stay in the 4th quarter against worn out defenses trying to pad stats. Those aren't my words. Ja'Hyde Brown has seen the 2nd half twice this season and only for 1 drive each time. He's played 14 quarters out of a possible 24 quarters. Twice this year, he was also done before halftime and not at it. He's averaging 17.4 YPC. If he played 4 full quarters consistently, he would currently have about 1600 yards receiving and 38 TDs. He scores every 2.5 times he touches the football and he impacts the game tremendously on special teams, show by his 3 PRs for TDs this year. That's why I was asking what guys he was speaking of. I wanted to make sure I was understanding correctly. Saying that all of the other guys Fryman is being compared to who are Mr. Football candidates are consistently playing 4 quarters and are in the 4th quarter "trying to pad their stats against tired, worn-out defenses" is not true, at least in one case. That's all.

1 hour ago, Unrivaled97 said:

Agreed, I thought it was a great rundown and like I said, I like the argument about also playing defense as I think that is the strongest case to be made. I don't want to hijack this topic about Tyler Fryman and I think he has an excellent case for Mr. Football, so this is the last comment I will have other than to praise Fryman. Not all "guys" he is being compared to play in the 2nd half nor stay in the 4th quarter against worn out defenses trying to pad stats. Those aren't my words. Ja'Hyde Brown has seen the 2nd half twice this season and only for 1 drive each time. He's played 14 quarters out of a possible 24 quarters. Twice this year, he was also done before halftime and not at it. He's averaging 17.4 YPC. If he played 4 full quarters consistently, he would currently have about 1600 yards receiving and 38 TDs. He scores every 2.5 times he touches the football and he impacts the game tremendously on special teams, show by his 3 PRs for TDs this year. That's why I was asking what guys he was speaking of. I wanted to make sure I was understanding correctly. Saying that all of the other guys Fryman is being compared to

Fair point on those numbers-that completely clears up my question.

To get this thread back on track and focused on Tyler Fryman, his case really comes down to that elite two-way impact we talked about. Being a dominant force on both sides of the ball is rare these days, and that iron-man versatility is exactly why Fryman belongs at the very top of the Mr. Football conversation.

10 hours ago, The_Bull44 said:

Fair point on those numbers-that completely clears up my question.

To get this thread back on track and focused on Tyler Fryman, his case really comes down to that elite two-way impact we talked about. Being a dominant force on both sides of the ball is rare these days, and that iron-man versatility is exactly why Fryman belongs at the very top of the Mr. Football conversation.

Three way impact. He is also a big factor on special teams as a return man and the punter.

Great athlete - I would say he is trailing Brown right now but a lot of football to be played. I think Fryman is definitely top 3.

While I love the player and the college potential. Playing devil's advocate here, but is he even the best player on his own team? Pabst is stuffing the stat sheet every week from the rb position (with the same limited playing time) and I know he has been outstanding as a returner. Does Pabst play regularly on defense (I think he does) and what is that impact?

48 minutes ago, FatNate said:

While I love the player and the college potential. Playing devil's advocate here, but is he even the best player on his own team? Pabst is stuffing the stat sheet every week from the rb position (with the same limited playing time) and I know he has been outstanding as a returner. Does Pabst play regularly on defense (I think he does) and what .

1 hour ago, FatNate said:

While I love the player and the college potential. Playing devil's advocate here, but is he even the best player on his own team? Pabst is stuffing the stat sheet every week from the rb position (with the same limited playing time) and I know he has been outstanding as a returner. Does Pabst play regularly on defense (I think he does) and what is that impact?

That's exactly why stats don't always tell the whole story. Pabst is having an incredible year and maximizing his role, but the raw numbers are entirely a product of volume. If Fryman were featured in that same compact, high-touch role where the offense revolved around getting him the ball 20-30 times a game, his stats would comfortably exceed what we're seeing. His candidate status is based on pure talent and what he does with limited opportunities-if you gave him that kind of volume, the numbers wouldn't even be close.

No disrespect to Fryman, in fact if I were a coach I would want him on my team. However, when your schedule outside of Covington Catholic is the sisters of the poor how much do your stats mean. From the LINK :

- The annual Beechwood against district opponents post is here. Since joining Class 2A in 2019, the Tigers are 35-0 and have outscored opponents 1,868-92. That's an average score of 53.3 to 2.6. They started district play with a 63-0 victory over Owen County on Friday. Walton-Verona and St. Henry looked to be improved, but it's just a different level when it comes to the Tigers in 2A around NKY.

Probably that way around most all of 2A except for maybe three other teams, so Beechwood might play three competitive games a season (Covington Catholic, the semi-finals and finals). The rest are all tune ups. I would think Beechwood could afford a stronger schedule.

Wonder what the stats look like outside their district opponents. Anybody?

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