Committed to UK will help his chances.

1 hour ago, DoubleDuce said:

No disrespect to Fryman, in fact if I were a coach I would want him on my team. However, when your schedule outside of Covington Catholic is the sisters of the poor how much do your stats mean. From the LINK :

- The annual Beechwood against district opponents post is here. Since joining Class 2A in 2019, the Tigers are 35-0 and have outscored opponents 1,868-92. That's an average score of 53.3 to 2.6. They started district play with a 63-0 victory over Owen County on Friday. Walton-Verona and St. Henry looked to be improved, but it's just a different level when it comes to the Tigers in 2A around NKY.

Probably that way around most all of 2A except for maybe three other teams, so Beechwood might play three competitive games a season (Covington Catholic, the semi-finals and finals). The rest are all tune ups. I would think Beechwood could afford a stronger schedule.

Wonder what the stats look like outside their district opponents. Anybody?

Out of district this year Beechwood plays an Ohio 2025 final four team, a top ten 6A school, a top 5 4A school, a 5A school and a 6A school. That is not sisters of the poor although it may look that way because they running clocked all of them except the top 5 4 A school (Cov Cath) - and they have yet to play the other 6A school. Beechwood always plays big schools in out of district play.

As to the impact on Fryman's stats, I looked at this last year and his stats were better against the better opponents. More touches playing full games.

Here are his stats in this years out of district games:

Indian Hill - 6 catches, 111 yards, 1 TD; 1 rush 47 yard TD

Dixie Heights - 4 catches 65 yards; 3 rushes, 9 yards, 1 TD; Opening kickoff returned for TD where he made 7 players miss tackles, unbelievable

Simon Kenton - 5 catches, 143 yards, 1 TD; 3 rushes, 10 yards, 1 TD

Covington Catholic - 13 catches, 129 yards; 10 rushes, 24 yards, 1 TD

Also, to point out how the district games are actually worse for him from a stats point of view, against Owen County, 1 catch for a 21 yard TD and intercepted a pass that he ran back for a TD. He only got two touches and scored a TD on both of them.

I am mostly interested in the conversation, I don't mean any disrespect. I believe Fryman would be an outstanding representative for high school football and is deserving of the award. By all accounts he is an incredible human and we have all seen his great athleticism is action. But, multiple things can be true at once. Everyone on the BGP Mr Football watch list are deserving in my opinion. I do worry a little bit that we only consider the guys with all the preseason hype and those without the hype don't really have enough time to make up the difference. I also worry that the award morphs into who is the best college or pro prospect, not the best high school senior football player in the state. Statistics do matter, while not being the only measuring stick statistics are part of the formula that determines Mr Football. The eye test and watching games should also be a big part of the puzzle, but at the end of the day it's a lot about personal preference. Those that vote for Mr. Football this year will be splitting hairs to determine the winner from a pool of immensely talented and deserving student athletes.

6 hours ago, FatNate said:

I am mostly interested in the conversation, I don't mean any disrespect. I believe Fryman would be an outstanding representative for high school football and is deserving of the award. By all accounts he is an incredible human and we have all seen his great athleticism is action. But, multiple things can be true at once. Everyone on the BGP Mr Football watch list are deserving in my opinion. I do worry a little bit that we only consider the guys with all the preseason hype and those without the hype don't really have enough time to make up the difference. I also worry that the award morphs into who is the best college or pro prospect, not the best high school senior football player in the state. Statistics do matter, while not being the only measuring stick statistics are part of the formula that determines Mr Football. The eye test and watching games should also be a big part of the puzzle, but at the end of the day it's a lot about personal preference. Those that vote for Mr. Football this year will be splitting hairs to determine the winner from a pool of immensely talented and deserving student athletes.

There is a difference between a player who grinds out high volume because that's how the system is set up, and an athlete like Fryman who completely alters the game on very limited touches compared to others. If Fryman were in a scheme that force-fed him the ball on every other snap, his offensive numbers would look like an arcade game. Instead, his impact is built on sheer explosiveness-he is a home-run threat every single time he touches it, a true eraser in the deep third who shrinks the field for opposing quarterbacks, and an elite weapon on special teams. And let's be honest, the only reason he hasn't had to punt much is because the offense is triggering running clocks by halftime anyway!

Punishing a 4-star talent's Mr. Football case just because he plays efficiently within a balanced, dominant team concept completely misses the point of the award. You can't measure true individual dominance just by counting up who got the most touches.