What is everyone’s opinion of all these videographers all over the sidelines at games?  Have heard AD’s across the state are putting in policies of only granting sideline video access to credentialed media, such as local news outlets.  From afar it seems like a really good policy to have due to liability reasons at minimum.  The ones I see on social media just seem to generate interest in clicks and getting a kid’s name on social media.  There is very little to no impact on recruiting because that is done in person, camps or just simply watching hudl.

 

HSFB sidelines have WAY WAY WAY too many people who are doing nothing.  Only coaches, players, credentialed media and photographers working for the school (I.e. school website or yearbook photogs) should be out there.  My school (CovCath) was as bad as it gets when it came to sideline spectators (maybe they still are.  Haven't been to a game in a number of years.)  Too many people socializing and not paying real attention to the action, and on a sideline it can go from nothing to a world of hurt in the blink of an eye.

I would agree and only school affiliated personnel should be down there.  Just because you have a camera doesn’t mean you’re credentialed media. 
Appears to be far too many people down there profiting off kids.  
 

The term "credentialed media" is a misnomer in my opinion.  The legacy media likes to pretend they are all that and a bag of chips but in reality most media organizations make their own "credentials" and pretend they are "official."  And they have the gift of gab and will talk about some "organization" that gives them blah blah blah standing.  

I only bring this all up because I don't know how hundreds of schools are going to decide who may have access and who may not have access when there is nothing official. The second you deny some people they are going to blow your organization up online and point out numerous hypocrisies in your administration's "media policy" and make you look stupid.   And if you end up banning the "wrong people" you will have a firestorm on your hands.  

My advice to the schools is to walk softly and if you want to take action it should be one consistent policy across Kentucky and we all know that is not going to happen.

I heard Coopers AD kicked a student off the sidelines who was filming videos for kids.

32 minutes ago, MaddenCurse44 said:

I heard Coopers AD kicked a student off the sidelines who was filming videos for kids.

Or maybe the photographer didn’t request media permission prior to the game?

52 minutes ago, theguru said:

The term "credentialed media" is a misnomer in my opinion.  The legacy media likes to pretend they are all that and a bag of chips but in reality most media organizations make their own "credentials" and pretend they are "official."  And they have the gift of gab and will talk about some "organization" that gives them blah blah blah standing.  

I only bring this all up because I don't know how hundreds of schools are going to decide who may have access and who may not have access when there is nothing official. The second you deny some people they are going to blow your organization up online and point out numerous hypocrisies in your administration's "media policy" and make you look stupid.   And if you end up banning the "wrong people" you will have a firestorm on your hands.  

My advice to the schools is to walk softly and if you want to take action it should be one consistent policy across Kentucky and we all know that is not going to happen.

As I was told and I believe NKY AD’s have had this policy in place for a year or two.  You request access or a credential prior to game day and then you are afforded access.  Friends in eastern Kentucky are looking to do something similar.   How the school chooses to handle it is up to them.  I’d imagine requests are heavier for a school like Ryle than say Dayton. 
I agree with you on credentialed media, especially with so much media becoming digital.  
Are you there reporting and covering a game or are you there for personal profit?

2 hours ago, ProblemChild said:

As I was told and I believe NKY AD’s have had this policy in place for a year or two.  You request access or a credential prior to game day and then you are afforded access.  Friends in eastern Kentucky are looking to do something similar.   How the school chooses to handle it is up to them.  I’d imagine requests are heavier for a school like Ryle than say Dayton. 
I agree with you on credentialed media, especially with so much media becoming digital.  
Are you there reporting and covering a game or are you there for personal profit?

They are ALL there for some type of personal benefit/profit, especially the legacy media.

1 hour ago, ProblemChild said:

I would agree and only school affiliated personnel should be down there.  Just because you have a camera doesn’t mean you’re credentialed media. 
Appears to be far too many people down there profiting off kids.  
 

People can say they are there to help kids as much as they want, but they are there to make money. 

For the individual as who claim that high school sports should aspire to be more like college athletics, this is a perfect example of doing so. 

Show up at college game and see if you can walk on the field with a camera. 

 

42 minutes ago, MaddenCurse44 said:

I heard Coopers AD kicked a student off the sidelines who was filming videos for kids.

I had seen some of this out there.  School is put in a tough spot because they can’t respond to every social media complaint.  I was told that it wasn’t a student and no request was submitted.  Lastly, don’t buy the whole piece of these being recruiting videos.  College coaches just chuckle at these video clips.   They trust their eyes, coaches, in person camps, and  hudl film.   These social media clips may show a great run or catch, but they don’t show speed within first ten yards off the ball, do they block, do they get off press coverage, do they run multiple routes and lastly do they have the grades?
It’s just silly.  Recruiting video!!! False.  You don’t see these people videoing a kid studying or taking a test or serving on student council, doing community service but if they “Moss” a 5’5 cornerback and tap their head it’s on IG and other outlets.  

10 minutes ago, theguru said:

The are ALL there for some type of personal benefit/profit, especially the legacy media.

Legacy media is dead.  Again is BGP, NKY Tribune and such there reporting and covering a game or profiting off 16 year olds?

3 minutes ago, ProblemChild said:

Legacy media is dead.  Again is BGP, NKY Tribune and such there reporting and covering a game or profiting off 16 year olds?

I wouldn't say dead but I understand your point.

I will only speak to BGP, BGP hasn't been going to any games for years.  We are trying to do a public service by covering high school sports in Kentucky from afar and yes we do profit a small amount.  

Like previously mentioned, you have to come up with a definition of “media” and I don’t see that little thing as a simple process by any stretch of the imagination. Something that would have been simple to define 30 years ago is now truly undefinable. Basically anyone, or organization, could be part of the “media”. Who is worthy?  Who provides the best opportunity for the players? The best opportunity for the school?  Best coverage? 
 

More so than limiting who qualifies as “media”, maybe it would be better to designate a separate location for all that claim to be “media”. Maybe a location off the sideline. 

2 hours ago, MaddenCurse44 said:

I heard Coopers AD kicked a student off the sidelines who was filming videos for kids.

Here is what that person/org posted on social media.  Here is their page: https://www.instagram.com/rooksportsdidit?igsh=MW9xc2hkYnFjYWFtMw==

2 hours ago, theguru said:

The term "credentialed media" is a misnomer in my opinion.  The legacy media likes to pretend they are all that and a bag of chips but in reality most media organizations make their own "credentials" and pretend they are "official."  And they have the gift of gab and will talk about some "organization" that gives them blah blah blah standing.  

I only bring this all up because I don't know how hundreds of schools are going to decide who may have access and who may not have access when there is nothing official. The second you deny some people they are going to blow your organization up online and point out numerous hypocrisies in your administration's "media policy" and make you look stupid.   And if you end up banning the "wrong people" you will have a firestorm on your hands.  

My advice to the schools is to walk softly and if you want to take action it should be one consistent policy across Kentucky and we all know that is not going to happen.

Who ever the school wants to allow down there with credentials is up to them, but there needs to be a limit. In NKY now it’s usually the 4 local news stations, what’s left of local print media and countless people who have photography as a hobby. Those are the ones that need to be limited. Add them to the people who think they are important enough to stand there and just watch and it gets crowded and people get hurt, players included.