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College Football Playoffs beyond 2025

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Matt on KSR broke down the proposal he'd read for the immediate future of college football beyond next season.

First thing was an expansion to either 14 or likely 16 teams in the CFP.

Big Ten and SEC would get 4 teams each automatically in CFP, while ACC and Big 12 would each get 2 auto qualifiers. With 2 or 4 qualifiers left to next most deserving teams. While it wasn't mentioned I'm sure at least one spot is open for the best non-power conference team.

In determining the top 4 in the SEC and B1G only conference games would be considered, so a loss to a non-conference team would not impact your playoff opportunities. The thought is that this would get more good teams to play other good out of conference opponents.

SEC would move to a 9 game conference schedule.

One proposal discussed for the SEC (maybe for B1G also) is that top two teams would play for conference title and both would move on to CFP. The third and fourth slots in the CFP would go to the winners of #3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5 in play-in games also played on Conference Championship weekends.

The Big Ten and SEC would enter into a scheduling agreement where each team would play one team from the other conference. In the past its been discussed that teams would play teams that finished in the same order from the year before. Example SEC #1 would play B1G #1, #2 would play #2 and so on.

Thoughts?

It should 16 teams. The 4 SEC and 4 Big 10 is probably ok most of the time. 

I'd be fine with 16 teams, but four AQ's for any conference is too many. No idea why the Big 10 thinks they should be entitled to four. The SEC is at least explainable. 

That many AQ's will greatly affect the end of the regular season. You will have teams that are locks for the playoff sitting starters. Cross-conference rivalry games will suffer. 

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31 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

Cross-conference rivalry games will suffer. 

Yeah I think the UL/UK game could be in trouble. Just because of the lost revenue from a home game every other year. If UK's schedule rotation hit where they had 5 road and 4 home SEC games, plus at UL or at B1G opponent that's 6 possibly 7 Road games and only 5 or 6 Home games in a 12 game schedule. That's a big financial difference to having either 7 or 8 Home games every year.

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38 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

I'd be fine with 16 teams, but four AQ's for any conference is too many. No idea why the Big 10 thinks they should be entitled to four. The SEC is at least explainable. 

Going to be some shady B1G teams make it in from time to time for sure. For the foreseeable future B1G would send Ohio State and Penn State nearly every year with Michigan getting in more often than not as well. That fourth team in most years just looks to be a tune up game for whoever they play.

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I like no byes in the CFP, so I'm really hoping it goes to 16 teams. As we saw last year, there was a definite advantage to teams that had already played versus those that sat home and watched the first week.

1 hour ago, Jumper_Dad said:

Yeah I think the UL/UK game could be in trouble. Just because of the lost revenue from a home game every other year. If UK's schedule rotation hit where they had 5 road and 4 home SEC games, plus at UL or at B1G opponent that's 6 possibly 7 Road games and only 5 or 6 Home games in a 12 game schedule. That's a big financial difference to having either 7 or 8 Home games every year.

The scenario I'm thinking about is either team having locked up a bid to the CFP, and still having the rivalry game the last week of the season. No chance either team plays starters in that game if they either are already locked for the playoff, or playing the following week for a bid to the CFP. It wouldn’t be worth the risk. 

I'd retract to 8.  Even at 12 there will be way more Penn State v SMU first round games than not.

3 hours ago, Jumper_Dad said:

Going to be some shady B1G teams make it in from time to time for sure. For the foreseeable future B1G would send Ohio State and Penn State nearly every year with Michigan getting in more often than not as well. That fourth team in most years just looks to be a tune up game for whoever they play.

I'd say Oregon is a legit threat most years and Washington could potentially make it's way back into the mix eventually. 

16 hours ago, Jumper_Dad said:

Matt on KSR broke down the proposal he'd read for the immediate future of college football beyond next season.

First thing was an expansion to either 14 or likely 16 teams in the CFP.

Big Ten and SEC would get 4 teams each automatically in CFP, while ACC and Big 12 would each get 2 auto qualifiers. With 2 or 4 qualifiers left to next most deserving teams. While it wasn't mentioned I'm sure at least one spot is open for the best non-power conference team.

In determining the top 4 in the SEC and B1G only conference games would be considered, so a loss to a non-conference team would not impact your playoff opportunities. The thought is that this would get more good teams to play other good out of conference opponents.

SEC would move to a 9 game conference schedule.

One proposal discussed for the SEC (maybe for B1G also) is that top two teams would play for conference title and both would move on to CFP. The third and fourth slots in the CFP would go to the winners of #3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5 in play-in games also played on Conference Championship weekends.

The Big Ten and SEC would enter into a scheduling agreement where each team would play one team from the other conference. In the past its been discussed that teams would play teams that finished in the same order from the year before. Example SEC #1 would play B1G #1, #2 would play #2 and so on.

Thoughts?

Next level greed. 

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9 hours ago, sportsfan41 said:

I'd say Oregon is a legit threat most years and Washington could potentially make it's way back into the mix eventually. 

There are several teams that could compete yearly but none have shown a recent ability to be there yearly. USC definitely could, Oregon as you said as well. I just think for now it's really just Ohio State and 3 others every year. 

SEC is the same way. I see Georgia and maybe Texas as being in every year for the next several years, but after that it could be a rotation of several schools led by Alabama, LSU, Florida, Tennessee and a crazy yearly outlier like Missouri or South Carolina. 

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9 hours ago, Tranquility Base said:

I'd retract to 8.  Even at 12 there will be way more Penn State v SMU first round games than not.

At 8 teams, you'd have barely gotten last years champs in the playoffs. I'd rather have a couple too many teams in that leave a couple of good teams out.

There have been and will continue to be blowouts in the playoffs. That shouldn't be a reason to limit teams.

No reason debating a retraction.  That ain't happening.  As to why the B1G is entitled to 4 teams, well $$ for one but they have averaged 4 in the top 12 of the final rankings since Covid.  That said, I believe they should leave it alone except maybe revisit who gets the byes.

21 hours ago, Jumper_Dad said:

I like no byes in the CFP, so I'm really hoping it goes to 16 teams. As we saw last year, there was a definite advantage to teams that had already played versus those that sat home and watched the first week.

Correct, but part of that was ridiculous seeding. 

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27 minutes ago, mcpapa said:

Correct, but part of that was ridiculous seeding. 

Absolutely true.

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