9 hours ago, theguru said:

I disagree, we have the no nonsense post arrest complaint and the eyewitness testimony of someone that thinks they are helping Scheffler only they are actually incriminating Scheffler and impeaching his defense narrative. 

I have at least 10 questions to ask to get more facts about how this happened. I am not jumping straight to the police side and co-signing. Almost the opposite. It will take a lot more to convince me Scheffler is guilty of these charges.

2 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I have at least 10 questions to ask to get more facts about how this happened. I am not jumping straight to the police side and co-signing. Almost the opposite. It will take a lot more to convince me Scheffler is guilty of these charges.

Scheffler either complied or he didn't. 

1 minute ago, theguru said:

Scheffler either complied or he didn't. 

It is a gray world, not a black and white one. There are always nuances to the story.

Just now, Voice of Reason said:

It is a gray world, not a black and white one. There are always nuances to the story.

Scheffler is rich and famous and the best I can tell the majority of people and almost everyone on TV are in Camp Scheffler so I doubt much happens to him.  But if that were you or me we would probably still be rotting in jail. 

34 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

It is a gray world, not a black and white one. There are always nuances to the story.

Not really, but that mentality is what criminals thrive on. I honestly think it was miscommunication followed by frustration, possibly on both sides. 

No body cam footage. Most predictable thing I’ve heard all week. 

 

2 hours ago, theguru said:

Scheffler is rich and famous and the best I can tell the majority of people and almost everyone on TV are in Camp Scheffler so I doubt much happens to him.  But if that were you or me we would probably still be rotting in jail. 

Mostly because you or I wouldn’t have credentials and specific instructions on how/where to proceed. 

2 hours ago, sportsfan41 said:

Not really, but that mentality is what criminals thrive on. I honestly think it was miscommunication followed by frustration, possibly on both sides. 

It was probably communication, following instruction, different communication, confusion, escalation. 

2 hours ago, theguru said:

Scheffler is rich and famous and the best I can tell the majority of people and almost everyone on TV are in Camp Scheffler so I doubt much happens to him.  But if that were you or me we would probably still be rotting in jail. 

I don't buy that either. We may not have been out of jail in 1 hour, but none of us would have spent a night in jail.

18 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

It was probably communication, following instruction, different communication, confusion, escalation. 

Most of the officers I know, just want to make it through their shift and get home. No one goes to work wanting to be in the news. 

58 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

No body cam footage. Most predictable thing I’ve heard all week. 

 

Is that because he was a detective and just helping out due to need? Louisville police have to be on a strict body cam usage program with all they have gone through over the past couple years.

1 minute ago, Voice of Reason said:

I don't buy that either. We may not have been out of jail in 1 hour, but none of us would have spent a night in jail.

For those charges, you should. 

1 minute ago, sportsfan41 said:

For those charges, you should. 

At intake, they do a record review don't they? Clean record, no serious injuries involved, over crowded jails, no risk of not showing up for court ... I think any of us get out on OR or bond.

And I will throw this back at the celebrity issue. On the other side there is the police officer involved issue. I think the only reason any of us would not get out is because it is a police officer that was involved. And the courts will protect the police - and rightfully so in almost every case.

14 minutes ago, sportsfan41 said:

Most of the officers I know, just want to make it through their shift and get home. No one goes to work wanting to be in the news. 

Maybe they should apply for LMPD, that would be an upgrade for us.