3 hours ago, titan101 said:

Correct on Somerset QB but he played in a state championship.  He was a pocket QB playing in a good offensive system that showed his strengths.  Again Kash Daniel was not playing a skill position.  Brown plays on a High School team that can not pass the ball at all.  They know they are running 98% of the time.  If he plays at Boyle Haddix is an offensive genius and he has the compliment of a passing game and another D1 receiver so teams can't 100% focus on him.  Quisenberry was on a bad team, running a bad offense and he was playing out of position.  That makes it a lot harder to get a power 5 offer as an undersized skill player. 

How did Wan'Dale Robinson ever get a D1 scholarship? To Nebraska?

15 hours ago, titan101 said:

Correct on Somerset QB but he played in a state championship.  He was a pocket QB playing in a good offensive system that showed his strengths.  Again Kash Daniel was not playing a skill position.  Brown plays on a High School team that can not pass the ball at all.  They know they are running 98% of the time.  If he plays at Boyle Haddix is an offensive genius and he has the compliment of a passing game and another D1 receiver so teams can't 100% focus on him.  Quisenberry was on a bad team, running a bad offense and he was playing out of position.  That makes it a lot harder to get a power 5 offer as an undersized skill player. 

I agree, but he left when Coach Crutchfield was coming in @ Garrard.  I don't think he would've been playing QB for him, but the move has certainly worked out for him.  Him and Brown together would be absolutely lethal.

Danville's OC is very accomplished throwing the ball. Haddix is great no question, but Danville will look very different this year IMO.

3 hours ago, LC07 said:

Danville's OC is very accomplished throwing the ball. Haddix is great no question, but Danville will look very different this year IMO.

I’m sure they will look different.  Who will be there QB?  They got RB’s and WR’s for days.  I know they tried a few different guys back there. Wanting to throw more and having a QB to do it are two different things.  

7 hours ago, LC07 said:

Danville's OC is very accomplished throwing the ball. Haddix is great no question, but Danville will look very different this year IMO.

Without Brown, they for sure gonna look real different! Haha

Maybe he's looking to jump in with the big boys.  Bullitt East has to replace a lot of offense.  They have a good QB coming.  Could use a very talented RB, Slot, WR all around athlete to help move the ball down the field.  Same district as Male.  Mt. Washington is only 22 miles from U of L's campus.  2 season's playing for the Chargers would be great......for both !!

We've heard from a source close to the program that there's nothing to it just an emotional teenager acting out. #BigThings 

“An emotional teenager acting out”?

What are you talking about? His mother broke the story

 

2 hours ago, Big Things Kentucky said:

We've heard from a source close to the program that there's nothing to it just an emotional teenager acting out. #BigThings 

An emotional teenager acting out”?

What are you talking about? His mother broke the story

 

On 4/12/2023 at 4:50 PM, BEChargers said:

The school has done a nice job of supporting with coaching positions, but as you mentioned above most everything they use is paid for by the QB Club with a LOT of hard work.  You did mention the QB club and that is correct, but I just wanted to say that the club doesn't have a lot of boosters just walking in and passing out checks.  The money they do have is earned literally dollar by dollar.  Any school has the ability to do the same thing.  

While any school may have the ability to do the same thing, few have the opportunity to do the same thing. 
Just take the 2 schools in the county referenced. It would be hard to imagine Danville could start bingo and make as much money as Boyle. Also it would be logical that it could possibly hurt Boyle’s bingo. 
 

But more to the point many if not most school districts don’t allow for outside booster organizations (501c etc) due to the liabilities involved. Further Red Book policies are so tight on what is allowed with fundraising and consequently how those dollars are spent presents another hurdle. 
 

Many schools in this state at least, don’t have 6 figure operating budgets for the entire Athletic Dept let alone one program having over 100,000 to spend yearly. 
 

I’m all for the “anyone can do it just work harder” idea. But there is more to it than that.  I’ll guarantee you that there are and have been coaching staffs and parent organizations over the years all over the place that have put in as much time and effort and still not had the means to achieve that. Whether the factors involved are Policy limited, location limited, or financially limited. 
The business side of High School sports, particularly football, has changed in a lot of ways over the last 25 years. 
But the true division of football programs particularly in this state in this decade is not enrollment size, history and tradition or even how hard a group of young men work. 
It’s money. Who has the ability to put money into the programs and take care of players at a higher level. Everything from food and gear to facilities and exposure. 
Show the money. 

On 4/12/2023 at 7:00 PM, Down4theblue said:

Yeah organize golf scrambles, coaches clinics, youth tournaments, bourbon raffles, spirit cards, schedule games, free shirt give always, paint and power wash a stadium. Rarely get a thank you and still have a parent complain their baby got a XL instead of a L. People are spoiled for the most part and I feel your pain. 
 

and I’ll still take on hell with a squirt gun.

Not demeaning your post in any way, but think about doing all that for a $7000 per year coaching stipend while teaching a full load of classes and the guy who runs your booster club, helping you raise that 15,000 per year budget you need to make ends meet, is in your ear about his 5’7 260 son wanting to play running back. And oh by the way you have to figure out a way to beat Boyle on Friday night.   LOL  It rarely ends well. 

1 hour ago, LoneRanger said:

 

While any school may have the ability to do the same thing, few have the opportunity to do the same thing. 
Just take the 2 schools in the county referenced. It would be hard to imagine Danville could start bingo and make as much money as Boyle. Also it would be logical that it could possibly hurt Boyle’s bingo. 
 

But more to the point many if not most school districts don’t allow for outside booster organizations (501c etc) due to the liabilities involved. Further Red Book policies are so tight on what is allowed with fundraising and consequently how those dollars are spent presents another hurdle. 
 

Many schools in this state at least, don’t have 6 figure operating budgets for the entire Athletic Dept let alone one program having over 100,000 to spend yearly. 
 

I’m all for the “anyone can do it just work harder” idea. But there is more to it than that.  I’ll guarantee you that there are and have been coaching staffs and parent organizations over the years all over the place that have put in as much time and effort and still not had the means to achieve that. Whether the factors involved are Policy limited, location limited, or financially limited. 
The business side of High School sports, particularly football, has changed in a lot of ways over the last 25 years. 
But the true division of football programs particularly in this state in this decade is not enrollment size, history and tradition or even how hard a group of young men work. 
It’s money. Who has the ability to put money into the programs and take care of players at a higher level. Everything from food and gear to facilities and exposure. 
Show the money. 

All of this seems like a pretty good reason for a talented kid to get out of Dodge

12 hours ago, 12thRegionSportsFan said:

All of this seems like a pretty good reason for a talented kid to get out of Dodge

Perhaps. 

However if that is the lesson that is now coming from High School Sports and the lesson we are teaching our young people now in general that may explain a lot in societal terms. 
 

By that logic there will be no more small businesses being ran, it’s too hard and have too many hurdles to overcome. They’ll either sell out or never open and go work for the larger company because it has better chance a success. 
 

By that logic there will not be any more top tier programs arise, because all the “players” will go to the ones with all the flash and dash. 
People continue to forget that Boyle was not exactly a contender prior to about 1993…..

By that logic you won’t see another Bullit East situation from this year happen because why in the world would a bright young coach take a job that doesn’t have a $100,000 budget? 

Folks we hear and talk about the kids that transfer and are stars, but there are some that woulda been better off staying where they were. It happens. 
 

A friend of mine says all the time, “The grass is brown everywhere, maybe check your seed and try watering your own grass before you run over there where the grass looks greener.”  
There is a lot of common sense in that. 
 

Lastly, and I’m gonna make some people mad with this statement. 
It cracks me up listening to some of the folks from these places, that have apparently become destination programs, that are constantly getting transfers in crow about how they win with their kids and it’s homegrown hard work that makes the difference.
I don’t have to put specific school names in this post, any reader can pause and think about how some of these “we work harder” teams have benefited greatly from talent that came from other backyards. 

And the answer is “No” by the way.
 I would not turn down a great player that wanted to come to my school.
 I sure would hate to see him leave though.  

 

On 4/13/2023 at 12:52 PM, Voice of Reason said:

IMO, football recruiting is 90% on the God given size, speed and abilities of the athlete. All the talk about what support the player gets from a school, coach, program, etc is just noise and excuses when a player doesn't get the offer people think he "deserves". The college offers Demauriah Brown gets at his new school will be the same offers he would get at Danville. 

If you doubt the above, 2 of the top 10 recruits in KY for class of 2024 play for Taylor County and Knox Central. Both those schools lost by running clock in round 1 of last year's playoffs. 

I totally agree.  It’s always been about this on Friday nights and it always will be. Obviously “culture” is the big buzz word now, but that’s always been around, essentially doing things the “right ways” and how you handle your business.  But there are plenty of programs that have good culture, both high school and college.  I guarantee you that Akron, Toledo, WKU etc have great culture, as do Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, etc.  

Know what those first few don’t have? The dudes and talent of those others.  
 

But some coaches like to throw around “culture” as the key to their success(es) more because it’s a ‘low key’ way of it puts their program(s) success on THEM and what they did.  When you say “we were good / had that run bc we just happened to have better players or one game changing dude more than most of the people we were playing”, well, then, that doesn’t reflect as much on what the coach/staff did.  Although I know some out there who don’t care one bit to to adamantly admit that. 

28 minutes ago, LoneRanger said:

Perhaps. 

However if that is the lesson that is now coming from High School Sports and the lesson we are teaching our young people now in general that may explain a lot in societal terms. 
 

By that logic there will be no more small businesses being ran, it’s too hard and have too many hurdles to overcome. They’ll either sell out or never open and go work for the larger company because it has better chance a success. 
 

By that logic there will not be any more top tier programs arise, because all the “players” will go to the ones with all the flash and dash. 
People continue to forget that Boyle was not exactly a contender prior to about 1993…..

By that logic you won’t see another Bullit East situation from this year happen because why in the world would a bright young coach take a job that doesn’t have a $100,000 budget? 

Folks we hear and talk about the kids that transfer and are stars, but there are some that woulda been better off staying where they were. It happens. 
 

A friend of mine says all the time, “The grass is brown everywhere, maybe check your seed and try watering your own grass before you run over there where the grass looks greener.”  
There is a lot of common sense in that. 
 

Lastly, and I’m gonna make some people mad with this statement. 
It cracks me up listening to some of the folks from these places, that have apparently become destination programs, that are constantly getting transfers in crow about how they win with their kids and it’s homegrown hard work that makes the difference.
I don’t have to put specific school names in this post, any reader can pause and think about how some of these “we work harder” teams have benefited greatly from talent that came from other backyards. 

And the answer is “No” by the way.
 I would not turn down a great player that wanted to come to my school.
 I sure would hate to see him leave though.  

 

Agreed whole heartedly on all of this, especially that next to last paragraph. 
 

Although I will give somewhat of a counter, or another side of the coin way to look at the “grass isn’t greener” part.  
 

I once heard a very wise man say in a conversation - “you can water your grass all you want, but sometimes it doesn’t grow and won’t ever grow like you expect, despite the work you put into help it…because of the soil.”

…whole lot of merit to that, as well.  I never had heard that before.