Is it time for Florida to let Dan Mullen go?

[The Flea Market]

I love Vanderbilt!

[9068]

4 hours ago, John Anthony said:

Thomas More could beat Vandy, but point taken!

Uh, no.

[Tigerpride94]

Mullen's seat just got warmer!

[ColonelGator]

This is a loaded question but there is no doubt that his hypothetical "seat" has gotten warm in the collective minds of most Gator fans. What's most frustrating is that it didn't have to be this way.

First off fire Todd Grantham. It was obvious in 2019 when he underperformed and failed against the elite teams on our schedule (I'll give him a break regarding 2019 LSU) and made the offenses of bad teams look competent that this was a trend that would continue. In 2020 that was just exacerbated and caused some really painful losses (looking at you LSU Fog Game & Texas A&M). What's worse is that we had one of our most potent offenses ever last year with the best TE in CFB history (Pitts) and one of the best QBs we've ever had (Trask), along with some amazingly talented WR's, and it was just squandered.

This year was the absolute nail in the coffin. The fact that LSU had one of the worst rushing attacks in the FBS coming into the game against us (I think ranked 127th!!!) and managed to brutalize our defense to that extent using the same counter play was one of the most pathetic and disheartening showings by a Gator defense I think I've ever seen.

On top of it all, recruiting has been far from where we want it to be and what's very interesting to Gator fans is that Mullen has produced most of his success using mostly players McElwain recruited (Trask, Pitts, Toney, Copeland, Perine, etc.). McElwain was a mess at UF, but at the end of his tenure he did recruit multiple players that will be legends in Florida Gator lore forever. However it's not just Mullen. Our facilities aren't on par with Georgia, Bama, Clemson, etc. but they will be soon when the new facility is finished early next year. That should help some. And I think Mullen desperately needs to accept some accountability. What will fly at Miss State wont fly here. Can't have that mentality. And that's from the top of the administration down (Strickland came from MSU too). Have to be committed to football in every facet of the organization if you want to reach the top of the mountain.

What's amazing is that Mullen has a saving grace here. He has the most potent weapon in college football, Anthony Richardson. He needs to start Richardson and not look back. Richardson is the most talented player in CFB already, or one of them at the very least. Get rid of Todd Grantham, improve on recruiting, start Richardson and have some humility. That is the path for Mullen. If not he will not succeed.

[Jumper_Dad]

On 10/21/2021 at 5:41 PM, ColonelGator said:

This is a loaded question but there is no doubt that his hypothetical "seat" has gotten warm in the collective minds of most Gator fans. What's most frustrating is that it didn't have to be this way.

First off fire Todd Grantham. It was obvious in 2019 when he underperformed and failed against the elite teams on our schedule (I'll give him a break regarding 2019 LSU) and made the offenses of bad teams look competent that this was a trend that would continue. In 2020 that was just exacerbated and caused some really painful losses (looking at you LSU Fog Game & Texas A&M). What's worse is that we had one of our most potent offenses ever last year with the best TE in CFB history (Pitts) and one of the best QBs we've ever had (Trask), along with some amazingly talented WR's, and it was just squandered.

This year was the absolute nail in the coffin. The fact that LSU had one of the worst rushing attacks in the FBS coming into the game against us (I think ranked 127th!!!) and managed to brutalize our defense to that extent using the same counter play was one of the most pathetic and disheartening showings by a Gator defense I think I've ever seen.

On top of it all, recruiting has been far from where we want it to be and what's very interesting to Gator fans is that Mullen has produced most of his success using mostly players McElwain recruited (Trask, Pitts, Toney, Copeland, Perine, etc.). McElwain was a mess at UF, but at the end of his tenure he did recruit multiple players that will be legends in Florida Gator lore forever. However it's not just Mullen. Our facilities aren't on par with Georgia, Bama, Clemson, etc. but they will be soon when the new facility is finished early next year. That should help some. And I think Mullen desperately needs to accept some accountability. What will fly at Miss State wont fly here. Can't have that mentality. And that's from the top of the administration down (Strickland came from MSU too). Have to be committed to football in every facet of the organization if you want to reach the top of the mountain.

What's amazing is that Mullen has a saving grace here. He has the most potent weapon in college football, Anthony Richardson. He needs to start Richardson and not look back. Richardson is the most talented player in CFB already, or one of them at the very least. Get rid of Todd Grantham, improve on recruiting, start Richardson and have some humility. That is the path for Mullen. If not he will not succeed.

Grantham is definitely a weak link. Kentucky went to Louisville and won against his defense during Lamar's Heisman year. They have broken both the home and away loss streak to Florida since Grantham has been there also. His defenses have never looked good against good teams.

As far as McElwain recruiting "legendary" players. I don't think anyone at Florida is considered "legendary" unless they win something. Pitts was a great player, Trask was a decent QB but I'd pump the brakes on calling them Legendary. 

AR is pretty good, but most talented player in college football? C'mon now.

I agree that Mullen seems arrogant, but most coaches are to a degree. I still think he is a really good offensive play caller and can be successful in Gainesville. 

[Tigerpride94]

His seat has to be sizzling after getting smoked by South Carolina.

[9068]

As they say in baseball....."Yer Out!!!!"

[Jumper_Dad]

I was clearly wrong when I said these next 4 wins would calm everything down.

Good luck Mullen...your days are probably numbered at this point.

[Bert]

If Mullen wins out (Samford, Mizzou and FSU), he survives for next season but is let known a repeat type season will result in his termination.  If he loses one of those games, 50-50 he survives.  If he loses two, he is gone.

[John Anthony]

2 hours ago, Jumper_Dad said:

I was clearly wrong when I said these next 4 wins would calm everything down.

Good luck Mullen...your days are probably numbered at this point.

I hope they go after Leach.

[Bert]

38 minutes ago, John Anthony said:

I hope they go after Leach.

Steal two Miss St coaches in a row?  lol

[Jumper_Dad]

😂🤣😅

[Tigerpride94]

This probably cools his seat off some since making changes.

[The Raven]

46 minutes ago, Tigerpride94 said:

This probably cools his seat off some since making changes.

My brother, who is a Gators fan, seemed to think this was going to be the move after last night.  He seems to think Mullen will be around for the 2022 season.

[Jumper_Dad]

56 minutes ago, The Raven said:

My brother, who is a Gators fan, seemed to think this was going to be the move after last night.  He seems to think Mullen will be around for the 2022 season.

I think it probably gets him another year.