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Mass Shooting in San Jose

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3 hours ago, sportsfan41 said:

Probably needs it's own thread.  How bad is or can social media be for an anti social society?

Chicken and egg. Which came first?

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I’m a gun owner. A responsible gun owner. 

Mass shootings get clicks. Mass shootings sell newspapers. Gun control needs to be reformed. I’ve said for years that anyone who feels the need to own a gun should be allowed to. It should be a real pain in the behind to get one though…

We need to address other issues first. You’re more likely to be killed by a drunk driver than you are to be killed by a gun. Drug overdoses are killing people at a 3 to 1 rate compared to guns. 

If the end game is the number of deaths, we should put our efforts towards a few other things before guns.

On 5/26/2021 at 2:58 PM, theguru said:

Exactly what I said.

In many major cities the police in America are in a deep, defensive position and the void is filling up with nefarious forces. 

Who would want to be a cop today?  My best friends department is down 2 guys, I was with another friend who has an app or some type of a tracker, maybe you once had it.  It shows exactly when he can retire, he has 4 years left and was counting down to retire at 42.  My best buddy might have to call you if he can’t find anyone.

8 minutes ago, John Anthony said:

Who would want to be a cop today?  My best friends department is down 2 guys, I was with another friend who has an app or some type of a tracker, maybe you once had it.  It shows exactly when he can retire, he has 4 years left and was counting down to retire at 42.  My best buddy might have to call you if he can’t find anyone.

I don't exactly lose sleep at night over it but it is a terrifying thought where we may be a few years down the road and beyond.

9 minutes ago, John Anthony said:

Who would want to be a cop today?  My best friends department is down 2 guys, I was with another friend who has an app or some type of a tracker, maybe you once had it.  It shows exactly when he can retire, he has 4 years left and was counting down to retire at 42.  My best buddy might have to call you if he can’t find anyone.

I have been retired for almost 11 years and there were not many apps 15 years ago so I did it the old fashioned way just like inmates. 

 

13 minutes ago, John Anthony said:

Who would want to be a cop today?  My best friends department is down 2 guys, I was with another friend who has an app or some type of a tracker, maybe you once had it.  It shows exactly when he can retire, he has 4 years left and was counting down to retire at 42.  My best buddy might have to call you if he can’t find anyone.

 

27 minutes ago, theguru said:

I don't exactly lose sleep at night over it but it is a terrifying thought where we may be a few years down the road and beyond.

I hear ya on that.  Baltimore is below 700 cops (500 short), NY is losing cops left and right.  I also believe it’s a big part of the reason the housing market is so hot, people are fleeing the cities.

3 minutes ago, John Anthony said:

I hear ya on that.  Baltimore is below 700 cops (500 short), NY is losing cops left and right.  I also believe it’s a big part of the reason the housing market is so hot, people are fleeing the cities.

Some of those police officers are coming to nice, well run cities too.  I talked to some of my old co-workers recently and they were very pleased with the hires they have been able to make, many fleeing from large cities with anti-cop policies. 

On the housing market, all I have to say is what goes up must come down.

Speaking of Baltimore (and many other cities) to relate it to this thread, one long term solution is definitely school choice.  We have to have it to properly educate our children. 

1 hour ago, John Anthony said:

 I also believe it’s a big part of the reason the housing market is so hot, people are fleeing the cities.

The housing market is hot because mortgage rates are low.

2 hours ago, John Anthony said:

Who would want to be a cop today?

I agree. Who would want to work somewhere that a supposed "few" make your job that much more difficult, yet the the same "few" are protected at all costs? "Good cops" have a tough gig, for sure. 

9 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

I agree. Who would want to work somewhere that a supposed "few" make your job that much more difficult, yet the the same "few" are protected at all costs? "Good cops" have a tough gig, for sure. 

No one hates bad cops more than good cops.

Additionally, in my experience, the "few" are definitely not protected at all costs and when it does happen it is normally the big city police departments where there is a history of poor leadership.

19 minutes ago, theguru said:

No one hates bad cops more than good cops.

Additionally, in my experience, the "few" are definitely not protected at all costs and when it does happen it is normally the big city police departments where there is a history of poor leadership.

I really would like to believe this, and I don't doubt that this is your experience. 

21 minutes ago, theguru said:

No one hates bad cops more than good cops.

Additionally, in my experience, the "few" are definitely not protected at all costs and when it does happen it is normally the big city police departments where there is a history of poor leadership.

It's a shame when good cops are lumped in universally with the bad cops.

Just now, nkypete said:

It's a shame when good cops are lumped in universally with the bad cops.

It is just one more straw on the camel's back. 

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