So he had a lot of options and evidently the one Duke offered was the best? That’s what I gather from all of this.

Agreed.

 

Zion had plenty of options. As crazy as it sounds, college was the best choice for his financial future IMO. I’m not sure he’s the number 1 pick and has all the endorsements available without college.

 

Kid built quite the following at Duke.

 

Put me in the camp that believes Zion should have been paid but is absolutely fine with Duke getting hammered for it.

 

If Zion gets paid at Duke, did the other kids get paid? According to your thoughts Zion increased his future earning while at Duke, maybe Zion should have paid Duke for the year of exposure.

So he had a lot of options and evidently the one Duke offered was the best? That’s what I gather from all of this.

 

I assume a lot of them go that way.

If Zion gets paid at Duke, did the other kids get paid? According to your thoughts Zion increased his future earning while at Duke, maybe Zion should have paid Duke for the year of exposure.

 

The other kids aren’t Zion...

 

Duke and the NCAA benefited greatly from Zion. He should have been compensated.

 

As much as I hate Duke, and hope all wins while Zion was there are vacated, he was good for the game.

So he had a lot of options and evidently the one Duke offered was the best? That’s what I gather from all of this.

 

I don’t think the amount of money he made while at Duke would have matched what he could have made overseas.

 

But the exposure. The branding. The following he built. Those things could have not been matched while playing in Spain.

 

He bet on himself. He took less money to go to Duke for a year knowing it would pay off. He played the long game.

 

And just to be clear, we could substitute the name Zion with Anthony Davis and I’d still have the same opinion.

From @4 Quarters:
 

On 6/16/2020 at 7:15 PM, MBWC41 said:

 

I don’t think the amount of money he made while at Duke would have matched what he could have made overseas.

 

But the exposure. The branding. The following he built. Those things could have not been matched while playing in Spain.

 

He bet on himself. He took less money to go to Duke for a year knowing it would pay off. He played the long game.

 

And just to be clear, we could substitute the name Zion with Anthony Davis and I’d still have the same opinion.

You could substitute any name other than Duke, and it would have still been good for that school and the NCAA.

From @MBWC41:
 

1 minute ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

From @4 Quarters:
 

You could substitute any name other than Duke, and it would have still been good for that school and the NCAA.

Absolutely.

Zion made a lot of money for a lot of people.

From @Jumper_Dad:
 

1 minute ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

From @MBWC41:
 

Absolutely.

Zion made a lot of money for a lot of people.

Really? Duke games, both home and away don't already nearly sell out every night? What extra money did he make for Duke or the ACC? TV contracts were set years ago and he will be a distant memory by the time the new contracts are determined.

From @TheDeuce:
 

1 minute ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

From @Jumper_Dad:
 

Really? Duke games, both home and away don't already nearly sell out every night? What extra money did he make for Duke or the ACC? TV contracts were set years ago and he will be a distant memory by the time the new contracts are determined.

Advertising. Advertisers will pay more money to have their spots run during high profile games. Doesn't have anything to do with the TV deals.

From @bugatti:
 

1 minute ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

From @TheDeuce:
 

Advertising. Advertisers will pay more money to have their spots run during high profile games. Doesn't have anything to do with the TV deals.

Exactly. I know I was tuning in to see Zion play and he (or Duke) was put in the prime spots to capture additional eyes.

From @Jumper_Dad:
 

4 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

From @TheDeuce:
 

Advertising. Advertisers will pay more money to have their spots run during high profile games. Doesn't have anything to do with the TV deals.

None of that money goes to school or conferences, it goes to whoever already had the TV and Radio rights. There are other benefits to having Zion, but for the year he was there it meant very very little financially to the school and conference. They probably sold more T-shirts and made extra money from that but, none from TV or Radio.

From @TheDeuce:
 

1 minute ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

From @Jumper_Dad:
 

None of that money goes to school or conferences, it goes to whoever already had the TV and Radio rights. There are other benefits to having Zion, but for the year he was there it meant very very little financially to the school and conference. They probably sold more T-shirts and made extra money from that but, none from TV or Radio.

People that pay to advertise at Duke games, that doesn't go to Duke?

From @Jumper_Dad:
 

5 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

From @bugatti:
 

Exactly. I know I was tuning in to see Zion play and he (or Duke) was put in the prime spots to capture additional eyes.

Ad money from those games went to ESPN or network broadcasting the game. They pay up front to broadcast games, then hope to sell enough ads to pay for the TV/Radio rights

From @Jumper_Dad:
 

1 minute ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

From @TheDeuce:
 

People that pay to advertise at Duke games, that doesn't go to Duke?

In the arena? Probably, but I would bet those advertisers are lined up years in advance, way before Zion decided on Duke.

Duke sells out their ads because of K and program strength. Had Zion stayed a second or third year, they could have boosted in arena ad prices because of him...but those deals for that season were probably signed before he was.

From @Jumper_Dad:
 

2 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

From @TheDeuce:
 

People that pay to advertise at Duke games, that doesn't go to Duke?

On second thought, UK sells all of their advertising rights to JMI. Radio, TV, Arena, Stadium and other. If you see an ad in Rupp, JMI got paid for it.

They paid UK upfront years ago, any ad revenue is JMI's.

JMI has Duke's rights also.