Garbage...

What a joke. The NCAA and the University of Michigan should be ashamed.

What a joke. The NCAA and the University of Michigan should be ashamed.

 

What's the story here??

Garbage...

 

Who is James Hudson? Where was he, where is he now, why should he be immediately eligible?

James Hudson is a kid from Ohio, who went to Michigan and transferred to UC because he was battling with mental health issues. Michigan did nothing to help with his transfer. When a player transfers and is trying to play immediately, both schools have to sign off. Ohio State, helped Tate Martell transfer to Miami, FL. Michigan, basically questioned Hudson’s motives. @gametime, has been covering the story more than me. But that’s the gist of it.

 

Without Michigan advocating for the kid, the NCAA denied his immediate eligibility.

Edited July 27, 20197 yr by John Anthony

What's the story here??

Essentially what JA said. Michigan didnt cooperate with helping his transfer process to UC. After Harbaughs comments last week at Big 10 media days, not only did they not help, it appears they believe Hudson was simply making up his mental health struggles to get his transfer waiver.

Even if both schools sign off it's not automatic that they can play right away, right?

Even if both schools sign off it's not automatic that they can play right away, right?

 

Yes, but I bet they would have in this case. Michigan went as far as saying, Hudson didn’t document anything to them while he was there. Well, he plays a modern day gladiator sport and was afraid to say anything.

 

He leaves Michigan and they essentially say “sorry, can’t help you.”

 

Let’s not forget the NCAA still could have granted immediate eligibility. Neither they, nor Michigan, listened to this kids pleas. Very disappointing across the board, when Tate Martell got immediate eligibility for his coach retiring.

Even if both schools sign off it's not automatic that they can play right away, right?

It’s definitely not automatic, but if you look at two of the notable transfers this offseason who were granted immediate eligibility, Justin Fields and Tate Martell, neither had close to as good of reasoning as James Hudson. The difference between those two guys and Hudson is the schools they were transferring from didn’t stand in the way. It’s pretty obvious that Michigan hindered Hudson’s request for immediate eligibility. As JA said, it’s not all on Michigan, because the NCAA could still have granted that waiver.

Yes, but I bet they would have in this case. Michigan went as far as saying, Hudson didn’t document anything to them while he was there. Well, he plays a modern day gladiator sport and was afraid to say anything.

 

He leaves Michigan and they essentially say “sorry, can’t help you.”

 

Let’s not forget the NCAA still could have granted immediate eligibility. Neither they, nor Michigan, listened to this kids pleas. Very disappointing across the board, when Tate Martell got immediate eligibility for his coach retiring.

 

Playing devil's advocate here a second...kid never tells Michigan that he's depressed and that's why he wants to transfer. Gets to new school and suddenly doesn't care that his new teammates and fellow gladiators know he's depressed and uses it as excuse for transfer. If you look at it from their side, it would look fishy.

 

I'd venture to say that 90% of NCAA transfers have some level of depression, because if everything was great no reason to transfer. A kid normally is upset about something and that's why they transfer. If NCAA allowed this then in some way every kid could claim depression as a reason to leave.

 

I'm not getting the playing time I want, I'm depressed.

Coach recruited over me, I'm depressed.

Team sucks, I'm depressed.

Coach left, I'm depressed.

 

I am not making light of true depression, just pointing out that it could be used for nearly every transfer.

 

Hopefully this young man will still have a great career at UC, albeit a year layer in getting started.

Playing devil's advocate here a second...kid never tells Michigan that he's depressed and that's why he wants to transfer. Gets to new school and suddenly doesn't care that his new teammates and fellow gladiators know he's depressed and uses it as excuse for transfer. If you look at it from their side, it would look fishy.

 

I'd venture to say that 90% of NCAA transfers have some level of depression, because if everything was great no reason to transfer. A kid normally is upset about something and that's why they transfer. If NCAA allowed this then in some way every kid could claim depression as a reason to leave.

 

I'm not getting the playing time I want, I'm depressed.

Coach recruited over me, I'm depressed.

Team sucks, I'm depressed.

Coach left, I'm depressed.

 

I am not making light of true depression, just pointing out that it could be used for nearly every transfer.

 

Hopefully this young man will still have a great career at UC, albeit a year layer in getting started.

 

This isn’t going to be a popular opinion on this site, but I agree.

 

Before I start, I’ll go ahead and say that I know nothing about the situation. I don’t think I’ve heard the kids name before I clicked on the thread.

 

First and foremost, I hope the kid gets the treatment he needs.

 

I don’t believe he should be required to keep Michigan in the loop when it comes to his mental health. I do however believe he should be made to prove to someone involved that he was actively receiving or seeking medical help when he asked to transfer.

 

Mental health is an issue that should never be taken lightly but just saying your depressed and expecting to gain immediate eligibility just doesn’t cut it for me.

 

My second thought would be that if his mental health is a concern, maybe taking a year off from a sport that has a track record of brain injuries wouldn’t be such a bad idea ?

 

I hope the kid gets the help he needs and is able to finish his career.

 

Again, JMO, I know it won’t be a popular one.

Hudson has been in extensive treatment for depression and anxiety since the day he arrived on campus at Cincinnati. That was almost 8 months ago. That's one heck of a long con for someone that is lying.

 

Michigan didn't block his transfer, but the head coach, AD and compliance department were VERY active in blocking his waiver. They took a very hard stance on the issue because Hudson did not state his mental health issues until the end of his time at Michigan.

 

His mother has stated on record that they had a meeting with Harbaugh shortly before he entered the transfer portal where they asked for help and were told to enter the transfer portal over getting help for his issues and staying in the program.

 

The message the NCAA sent here is that if you are afraid of disclosing mental health concerns at your original school, there is nothing you can do to gain a waiver even if professionals in the field diagnose and treat you at the new school. It's a dangerous precedent to set any way you slice it.

Hudson has been in extensive treatment for depression and anxiety since the day he arrived on campus at Cincinnati. That was almost 8 months ago. That's one heck of a long con for someone that is lying.

 

Michigan didn't block his transfer, but the head coach, AD and compliance department were VERY active in blocking his waiver. They took a very hard stance on the issue because Hudson did not state his mental health issues until the end of his time at Michigan.

 

His mother has stated on record that they had a meeting with Harbaugh shortly before he entered the transfer portal where they asked for help and were told to enter the transfer portal over getting help for his issues and staying in the program.

 

The message the NCAA sent here is that if you are afraid of disclosing mental health concerns at your original school, there is nothing you can do to gain a waiver even if professionals in the field diagnose and treat you at the new school. It's a dangerous precedent to set any way you slice it.

 

Good enough for me.

Seems like the NCAA got this one wrong.

When a player transfers from one D1 school to another, we expect them to sit out a year, no? I’m not sure why a player who declared they are battling depression would be ruled eligible simply for that reason? I could see maybe asking for a medical redshirt, but just to play immediately? I don’t see why that would happen.

When a player transfers from one D1 school to another, we expect them to sit out a year, no? I’m not sure why a player who declared they are battling depression would be ruled eligible simply for that reason? I could see maybe asking for a medical redshirt, but just to play immediately? I don’t see why that would happen.

 

There are some ruled eligible for reasons a lot less than this.