Exactly. I highly doubt Crestview Hills Starbucks has had the same problems in the past that a location in downtown Philadelphia has. They have their policies in place for a reason.

 

Again I don’t think people have issues with the policies – it’s the application of the policies towards white and black customers. This topic is relevant for Crestview Hills, downtown Philly and all points in between.

 

Ok I’ve got to pry myself away from this topic, lol - meeting rest of the day!

Maybe, but I agree with Starbucks to take action just in case.

 

In the words of Winston Churchill: “I never worry about action, but only inaction.”

It's stupid. Starbucks created the policy then when their employees enforced it they need racial bias training? The only reason they are doing this is because it's bad publicity. Maybe they should just change the policy to let everyone use their bathroom. Or maybe just not white non paying customers.

I guess it just seems odd to me that a person who was not paying for service or product was asked to leave and everyone automatically leaps to profiling.

 

How many other people has this location or this manager asked to leave because they weren't paying before?

 

Does this location ever let non-paying customers use the restrooms without buying something?

 

How crowded is this Starbucks?

 

Has this Starbucks had issues with loitering or issues with people in their restrooms?

 

What was the exchange between the guys and the manager about bathroom use like?

 

I think we need to know the answers to a lot of those questions before we leap to profiling, don't you?

 

No question more information would help, but according to the interview the two guys did with Robin Roberts, they were approached by the employee at 9:35 and 911 was called at 9:37. The guy they were meeting with shows up at 9:45 and wonders why the people he's conducting business with are being arrested, so the meeting was legitimate.

 

It just seems to me that Starbucks would at least wait until 9:45 when Mr. Yaffe shows up. If he doesn't, then ask the guys to order or leave. But two minutes is all it took for them to call 911.

 

I hope this isn't profiling, but it sure smells like it to me. And I am one who believes that profiling is too often blamed in situations where it shouldn't.

Well then the cop should have sat down beside them and explained what was going on and why.

Then Im sure the cop would have to tell them the consequences.

 

Arresting them should have been the absolute last resort.

 

How do you know it wasn't?

I just saw a tweet that said they were there 2 minutes prior to the police being called.

No question more information would help, but according to the interview the two guys did with Robin Roberts, they were approached by the employee at 9:35 and 911 was called at 9:37. The guy they were meeting with shows up at 9:45 and wonders why the people he's conducting business with are being arrested, so the meeting was legitimate.

 

It just seems to me that Starbucks would at least wait until 9:45 when Mr. Yaffe shows up. If he doesn't, then ask the guys to order or leave. But two minutes is all it took for them to call 911.

 

I hope this isn't profiling, but it sure smells like it to me. And I am one who believes that profiling is too often blamed in situations where it shouldn't.

 

If they weren't going to order anything why does it matter if the meeting was legitimate? If policy says they can't stay if they don't order something the meeting is irrelevant.

Starbucks: ‘I heard y'all was racist, so I came to get my free coffee’

If they weren't going to order anything why does it matter if the meeting was legitimate? If policy says they can't stay if they don't order something the meeting is irrelevant.

 

And the point remains people sit in Starbucks all the time without even being approached, much less having the cops called on them.

If they weren't going to order anything why does it matter if the meeting was legitimate? If policy says they can't stay if they don't order something the meeting is irrelevant.

 

Fellas, this isn't this hard. You can't keep hanging onto the "policy" argument. It's all about the enforcement of any policy.

Starbucks: ‘I heard y'all was racist, so I came to get my free coffee’

 

I'm confused. What does the above have to do with this?

"The police were called because these men hadn’t ordered anything. They were waiting for a friend to show up, who did as they were taken out in handcuffs for doing nothing. All the other white ppl are wondering why it’s never happened to us when we do the same thing."....this quote was from the twitter page of Melissa Depino ( the woman who shot the video)

Fellas, this isn't this hard. You can't keep hanging onto the "policy" argument. It's all about the enforcement of any policy.

 

They'll argue it until they're blue in the face. :lol2:

 

"Do as you're told, don't ask questions."

Interesting... Why don't you?

 

Well, because the store asked them to leave. They didn't.

 

Then when the police showed up, they asked them to leave. They still didn't.

 

Asking them to leave and asking them to step outside for a second aren't really all that different, are they?

Well, because the store asked them to leave. They didn't.

 

Then when the police showed up, they asked them to leave. They still didn't.

 

Asking them to leave and asking them to step outside for a second aren't really all that different, are they?

 

Yes, IMO, because just because you step outside doesn't mean you can't go back in. Asking someone to leave is saying they aren't welcome at all.

Yes, IMO, because just because you step outside doesn't mean you can't go back in. Asking someone to leave is saying they aren't welcome at all.

 

Okay, and then once outside, when they were told they weren't allowed back in, how do you think that would've played out?