There are also individuals who were injury physically and many more emotionally, because the school district failed to do a basic thing to prevent the event from happening.

 

Also the guns dont shoot anyone randomly, someone has to pull the trigger.

You said that SROs do no good. You are wrong. This one saved people.

 

You also make it sound as if I am anti-gun with your silly "guns don't shoot people" sentence. I am a gun owner, so let's be clear on that. Don't misrepresent what I said.

In short, law enforcement officers WANT more good guys and gals with guns that are trained and willing to step up in an emergency.

 

If anyone in law enforcement ever tells you any different they are lying to you.

 

So two state police sergeants, one city police chief and two assistants, and two county sheriffs in separate meetings lied to me. Really?

So two state police sergeants, one city police chief and two assistants, and two county sheriffs in separate meetings lied to me. Really?

 

Like you said, since I wasn't involved in your conversations I have no way of knowing how they tiptoed through this.

 

But again, if any law enforcement officers are telling you they do NOT want more good guys and gals with guns that are trained and willing to step up in an emergency, I am calling them a liar and you can tell them I said it.

 

Moving forward, a big part of law enforcement is sales. You are obviously not for arming teachers, the government has not made any push to arm teachers, and this is a way for all law enforcement agencies involved to expand their organizations.

 

You are nothing but a Pawn in this, welcome to Law Enforcement BM.

Like you said, since I wasn't involved in your conversations I have no way of knowing how they tiptoed through this.

 

But again, if any law enforcement officers are telling you they do NOT want more good guys and gals with guns that are trained and willing to step up in an emergency, I am calling them a liar and you can tell them I said it.

 

Moving forward, a big part of law enforcement is sales. You are obviously not for arming teachers, the government has not made any push to arm teachers, and this is a way for all law enforcement agencies involved to expand their organizations.

 

You are nothing but a Pawn in this, welcome to Law Enforcement BM.

 

 

That is not necessarily true. If law enforcement and other experts said that we should arm teachers under, I would do what was best for kids. That has not been the case from law enforcement administration and safe school experts. I have never, not even once, given my opinion in those meetings. That is not how I run my professional life.

 

I can't assist in making these decisions on random opinions of the general population. But you will not be convinced, I can see. Your mind must be made up.

That is not necessarily true. If law enforcement and other experts said that we should arm teachers under, I would do what was best for kids. That has not been the case from law enforcement administration and safe school experts. I have never, not even once, given my opinion in those meetings. That is not how I run my professional life.

 

I can't assist in making these decisions on random opinions of the general population. But you will not be convinced, I can see. Your mind must be made up.

 

You're right BM, my mind is made up, the more boots we have on the ground the safer our schools will be.

One officer, two officers, a dozen officers, do no good if you let the weapons walk right in the front door.

 

How do you suggest stopping that? Metal detectors have their own set of problems.

Answer me this, why do I have to get half naked to get on a plane, but I can walking directly into a school and not even show an ID?

 

How is lining kids up in a large group outside waiting to get in a good thing? You won't be able to get everyone in quickly, therefore you are going to have a lot of sitting ducks waiting in line to get in.

Like you said, since I wasn't involved in your conversations I have no way of knowing how they tiptoed through this.

 

But again, if any law enforcement officers are telling you they do NOT want more good guys and gals with guns that are trained and willing to step up in an emergency, I am calling them a liar and you can tell them I said it.

 

Moving forward, a big part of law enforcement is sales. You are obviously not for arming teachers, the government has not made any push to arm teachers, and this is a way for all law enforcement agencies involved to expand their organizations.

 

You are nothing but a Pawn in this, welcome to Law Enforcement BM.

 

Or just maybe, as shocking as it may be, they have a different opinion than you. :eek:

How do you suggest stopping that? Metal detectors have their own set of problems.

 

Having zero metal detectors has bigger problems doesnt it?

How is lining kids up in a large group outside waiting to get in a good thing? You won't be able to get everyone in quickly, therefore you are going to have a lot of sitting ducks waiting in line to get in.

 

Glad you brought this up because I feel like many people don't think of it.

 

Let's pretend we put metal detectors at every entrance at every school. Great. Just like you've pointed out, there will be large groups of students standing waiting to be searched. Gunman walks up to the group and starts firing, kills numerous people, never has to set foot inside the school.

 

While I think metal detectors would help in certain applications, it absolutely doesn't completely solve the problem.

Glad you brought this up because I feel like many people don't think of it.

 

Let's pretend we put metal detectors at every entrance at every school. Great. Just like you've pointed out, there will be large groups of students standing waiting to be searched. Gunman walks up to the group and starts firing, kills numerous people, never has to set foot inside the school.

 

While I think metal detectors would help in certain applications, it absolutely doesn't completely solve the problem.

 

How would that be different than a gunman shooting at the kids as they get off the bus outside the school?

 

Furthermore, I dont think the lines would be as log as some think. Not everyone arrives at school at the same time. Busses stagger in, parent drop offs stagger in, student drivers stagger in.

 

I look back at my high school, everyone came in the same entrance every day (was the only way in, in the mornings) which had a very narrow hallway into the school. There were never lines to get into the school. (granted no metal detectors either then to back things up) Now that would not be the entrance to use at said school with metal detectors, but they have also remodeled the school since then as well.

Weird how this story has barely been covered. Applaud BGP for keeping the thread going.

Or just maybe, as shocking as it may be, they have a different opinion than you. :eek:

 

I am sure there are a few, just like there are a few cowards that will stand by outside while innocent children are slaughtered.

Weird how this story has barely been covered. Applaud BGP for keeping the thread going.

 

Not enough death and carnage. If the shooter had killed a dozen before the SRO got him, there would be a LOT more coverage.

Not enough death and carnage. If the shooter had killed a dozen before the SRO got him, there would be a LOT more coverage.

 

And the SRO would be criticised for not getting there sooner.