Did you see anything at that link about legal authority to arrest/detain/etc?

 

And while I am on this again, if the passenger is breaking a law it should have been a law enforcement officer enforcing the law. Furthermore, if it was a law, the law enforcement officers should have come onto the plane and arrested/cuffed him right there and walked/carried him out.

 

The more I think about this the more I think it is a comedy of errors.

 

Did you see anything that says he has the right to stay and flop on the ground like a 3 year old? If they want to remove him they have that right. If he doesnt leave how is he not trespassing?

From the brief transcript posted that's not the case. Apparently he was having a discussion with a non-law enforcement officer about being taken to jail if he didn't comply.

 

Since a law was going to have to be enforced to remove him it was the duty of the non-law enforcement officer to de-escalate the situation until the proper authorities arrived.

 

Instead of them jerking him out of his seat, bashing his face, and dragging him out the proper move would have been to back off, contain, and wait.

 

I read that they had him off the plane when he got away and ran back onto the plane which is where the video starts...i could be wrong though.

I read that they had him off the plane when he got away and ran back onto the plane which is where the video starts...i could be wrong though.

 

Sounds like yet another failure to contain the situation.

Was he a security issue before "United" approached him with an ultimatum?

 

If not, that's more United and many others will have to answer for.

 

Its not their fault he acted like a spoiled child.

Did you see anything that says he has the right to stay and flop on the ground like a 3 year old? If they want to remove him they have that right. If he doesnt leave how is he not trespassing?

 

I'm not debating the right to remove him. I'm questioning the process, policies, and legal authority.

Sounds like yet another failure to contain the situation.

 

You've already stated you dont think they should go hands on since they aren't law enforcement... so how were they supposed to stop him from going back? Beg him? Ask nicely?

You've already stated you dont think they should go hands on since they aren't law enforcement... so how were they supposed to stop him from going back? Beg him? Ask nicely?

 

I'm guessing they were lacking some legal authority which is my point.

I'm guessing they were lacking some legal authority which is my point.

 

Either they lacked legal authority or they failed to contain him... cant be both.

 

I guess I'm just weird because i feel no sympathy for him and think he acted like a fool.

So, seems it wasn't long ago, we had a thread where a pilot himself restrained/tackled a passenger that needed removed, but he was lauded with praise. He's not law enforcement.

Either they lacked legal authority or they failed to contain him... cant be both.

 

I guess I'm just weird because i feel no sympathy for him and think he acted like a fool.

 

Of course it can be both.

If he doesnt leave how is he not trespassing?

 

I asked this earlier and got no response...

I asked this earlier and got no response...

 

Guess we can keep asking...

If he was trespassing then he should have been arrested prior to being removed and carted off to jail. In one of the plethora of articles that has been linked in this thread didn't I read that the airport security in this situation were in fact police but unarmed?

Just saw United is offering compensation to everyone who was on that flight.

They're obviously doing everything they can to get out from under this PR nightmare.