Actually, no. I'm just saying that's a different debate. There seems to be multiple ones here but there is a distinction that you are missing.

 

As stated, United had the right to do that and Dr. Dao did in fact agree to that when he bought a ticket.

 

It's no different than if someone becomes a member and is suspended from this site. You have the right to do that. We agree that you have the right to do that when we sign up. Whether it's done correctly or not is a different discussion.

 

Comparing BGP to this is apples and oranges.

 

Like I said, Corporate Abuse.

 

Basically what we are saying is an Airline can kick any paying customer off of any flight at any time for any reasons and if you don't comply you will be forcibly removed.

Comparing BGP to this is apples and oranges.

 

Like I said, Corporate Abuse.

 

Basically what we are saying is an Airline can kick any paying customer off of any flight at any time for any reasons and if you don't comply you will be forcibly removed.

 

It's actually the same situation. You agree to TOS when you become a member here. You agree to something similar when you purchase an airline ticket. Plain and simple.

The proper analogy would be a landlord renting to a tenant. In that case, no the landlord cannot make the tenant leave his property, the landlord has to follow an eviction process.

Apples and oranges. The apartment is considered your home. An airplane is no different in this case than a football stadium. You purchase a ticket to a football game does the stadium management forfeit the right to ask you to leave?

Which if true - the mistake that is - means United will pay even more damages before this is all said and done.

Why would United have to pay damages for the Courier Journal's screw up?

It's actually the same situation. You agree to TOS when you become a member here. You agree to something similar when you purchase an airline ticket. Plain and simple.

 

It is not the same at all because no one shows up with Guns and bludgeons you if you don't comply with our TOS.

Apples and oranges. The apartment is considered your home. An airplane is no different in this case than a football stadium. You purchase a ticket to a football game does the stadium management forfeit the right to ask you to leave?

 

You are going to have to be more specific on the legal authority for football stadium management to be able to force a paid customer that is not causing any problems or breaking any laws to leave?

Comparing BGP to this is apples and oranges.

 

Like I said, Corporate Abuse.

 

Basically what we are saying is an Airline can kick any paying customer off of any flight at any time for any reasons and if you don't comply you will be forcibly removed.

Please put down the corporate abuse drum. You keep saying they had a contract yet you don't want both ends to up hold the terms, only United. The Dr agreed to terms when he made the purchase. If those terms included United's right to bump him then it sucks but they are within their right.

Why would United have to pay damages for the Courier Journal's screw up?

 

Complicated for sure but United "started it" and this is some additional damage that has been done that would have never been done had United not "started it."

It is not the same at all because no one shows up with Guns and bludgeons you if you don't comply with our TOS.

 

Again. You're Mixing the two arguments.

The issue was a flight from Louisville wasn't going to have a crew, right?

 

I'm still not understanding why someone in Chicago should be screwed over because United made a mistake in Louisville.

 

When a company makes a mistake, they should be the one's biting the bullet and losing out. Not innocent paying customers.

 

It might not have been a mistake made in Louisville.

 

At the same time this was going down the South Eastern US was having significant delays from bad weather they were trying to catch up on. This may have caused the crew that was supposed to be flying the plane leaving Louisville too "Time out" as they call it. Hence a new flight crew was needed ASAP in Louisville to fly that flight. Happens all the time when there are significant weather delays. Dont know that this was the case here, but it could be.

You are going to have to be more specific on the legal authority for football stadium management to be able to force a paid customer that is not causing any problems or breaking any laws to leave?

You're trying to limit it to a certain set of criteria. If I'm at a game and being disruptive they can and will probably ask me to leave. Because that is part of what I agree to when I purchase the ticket. What happens if I feel like I'm not being disruptive and they shouldn't be able to remove me. I refuse, they have a cop come over to remove me. I still refuse, a second cop asks, I refuse again. What would happen?

Please put down the corporate abuse drum. You keep saying they had a contract yet you don't want both ends to up hold the terms, only United. The Dr agreed to terms when he made the purchase. If those terms included United's right to bump him then it sucks but they are within their right.

 

Why deny the truth?

You're trying to limit it to a certain set of criteria. If I'm at a game and being disruptive they can and will probably ask me to leave. Because that is part of what I agree to when I purchase the ticket. What happens if I feel like I'm not being disruptive and they shouldn't be able to remove me. I refuse, they have a cop come over to remove me. I still refuse, a second cop asks, I refuse again. What would happen?

 

You are eating fruit of the poisonous tree. He wasn't being disruptive. He was a normal, paying customer that didn't do anything wrong.

 

If you want to use the football analogy what legal authority does football stadium management have to remove a paying customer that hasn't done anything wrong?

Complicated for sure but United "started it" and this is some additional damage that has been done that would have never been done had United not "started it."

What you keep glossing over is the fact that had the Dr left when first asked NO ONE expect for those on the plane would have known about this. His decision to act like a child is what lead to this at that point. Because you don't like United's policy and/or ability to remove anyone for any reason doesn't matter. They can, they did, and at that point what happened is 98% on him.

Again. You're Mixing the two arguments.

 

Why don't you clear it up for me?