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The Downfall Of Highlands' Football

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Doss just had 3 guys offered by Purdue. I have had some good teams/players in my 25 years as a head coach. I have never had a BCS school roll in and offer 3 players. Highlands is fine. Mortal.... But fine.

 

Coach Gruneisen use to tell me that things are never as good as they seem or as bad as they seem. I think that applies to Highlands during their runs and during their tough times as well. It applies to all programs. Most of us are just a few plays or players away from being very good or very bad.

 

Well said!

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You bullet out the exact questions you want answered and I'll answer everyone of them. (Even though they have all been answered in detail on BGP already)

 

I just asked three right there and even said I was just starting, so that would have been a good place to start.

 

However, I'm heavily brain damaged, so were those questions not clear enough?

 

Also, did you even read my opening paragraph of this thread(?):

 

This has probably been discussed to no end, but I haven't been around, and the recent downfall of Highlands' football is amazing.

 

I acknowledge that it has most likely been discussed a lot but I haven't been here.

I just asked three right there and even said I was just starting, so that would have been a good place to start.

 

However, I'm heavily brain damaged, so were those questions not clear enough?

 

Also, did you even read my opening paragraph of this thread(?):

 

 

 

I acknowledge that it has most likely been discussed a lot but I haven't been here.

 

I asked you to bullet out all your questions. I will answer them one by one and then we can put this to bed.

 

You may have not been here, but the answers are all there if you were really just interested in getting answers. you keep saying no one has answered you. Yes we have, numerous times. Just look them up and you can get the answer to every one of your questions. OR...you can bullet them out one by one and I will answer them all...again.

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I asked you to bullet out all your questions. I will answer them one by one and then we can put this to bed.

 

You may have not been here, but the answers are all there if you were really just interested in getting answers. you keep saying no one has answered you. Yes we have, numerous times. Just look them up and you can get the answer to every one of your questions. OR...you can bullet them out one by one and I will answer them all...again.

 

Really? You're going to be THAT juvenile?

Really? You're going to be THAT juvenile?

 

Juvenile?? Do you want answers or just want to argue? I've stated the answers multiple times. I'm not gonna search thru all your posts to gather all your questions.

 

If you really want answers post all of them in one post and I will answer them in one by one. Why is that juvenile? Feeling more and more like you could really care less what the answers are. You just want to keep your thread alive.

 

It's not that hard.

 

I have yet to see one post with any logical argument against me, but rather just blind homerism.

 

 

I am not a Highlands fan so no homerism from me. I don't buy one bad season means it is over. That is my point. Two years ago they lost a close game in the state semi-finals.

 

I also don't buy your revisionist history that every game was a blowout for 25 years. They lost games. They didn't win 25 straight state titles. Covington Catholic even beat Highlands a few times in those 25 years.

 

Looking ahead, I think it will be tough for Highlands to be as good. Other programs paid attention and have caught up with Highlands. The quality of football in N. Ky. and other areas is much better than it was even 10 years ago.

 

I saw Highlands play this year and the biggest thing for me from my small glimpses was they didn't use their personnel right. You can't be that small on the defensive line and compete against the schedule they played. Now, that could be a red flag to coaching concerns. If I see that as a fan in one half of football, why didn't the coaches try to make changes? I heard they did make some changes late in the year but they should have seen that in the first couple games - assuming my assessment is right - and since they did make changes it probably was right. So, bfritz, if you want to revel in a moment of joy as a CCH fan - after so many years of pain - and be a sore winner by taking shots at your rival, maybe that is something for you to latch onto.

 

If you are trying to say there are problems in the program, I will reserve judgment. One bad season doesn't make me go there. You know about that. It's like a 5-8 season two years ago for Covington Catholic shouldn't have caused Colonels fans to say Eviston has no clue. Let's see what happens the next year or two in Ft. Thomas before we say it is a downfall. That is my point.

I am not a Highlands fan so no homerism from me. I don't buy one bad season means it is over. That is my point. Two years ago they lost a close game in the state semi-finals.

 

I also don't buy your revisionist history that every game was a blowout for 25 years. They lost games. They didn't win 25 straight state titles. Covington Catholic even beat Highlands a few times in those 25 years.

 

Looking ahead, I think it will be tough for Highlands to be as good. Other programs paid attention and have caught up with Highlands. The quality of football in N. Ky. and other areas is much better than it was even 10 years ago.

 

I saw Highlands play this year and the biggest thing for me from my small glimpses was they didn't use their personnel right. You can't be that small on the defensive line and compete against the schedule they played. Now, that could be a red flag to coaching concerns. If I see that as a fan in one half of football, why didn't the coaches try to make changes? I heard they did make some changes late in the year but they should have seen that in the first couple games - assuming my assessment is right - and since they did make changes it probably was right. So, bfritz, if you want to revel in a moment of joy as a CCH fan - after so many years of pain - and be a sore winner by taking shots at your rival, maybe that is something for you to latch onto.

 

If you are trying to say there are problems in the program, I will reserve judgment. One bad season doesn't make me go there. You know about that. It's like a 5-8 season two years ago for Covington Catholic shouldn't have caused Colonels fans to say Eviston has no clue. Let's see what happens the next year or two in Ft. Thomas before we say it is a downfall. That is my point.

 

Changes on,defense should've been made much earlier in the year but I think BW was giving the Coordinator the benefit of the doubt. New year and now new Coordinator. I expect the defense to be much improved and nastier.

 

Id like to see some athletes go both ways and not stand on the sidelines rotating at WR where they may get 3-4 balls thrown their way in a game.

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Juvenile?? Do you want answers or just want to argue? I've stated the answers multiple times. I'm not gonna search thru all your posts to gather all your questions.

 

If you really want answers post all of them in one post and I will answer them in one by one. Why is that juvenile? Feeling more and more like you could really care less what the answers are. You just want to keep your thread alive.

 

It's not that hard.

 

I could care less about keeping the thread alive at this point, I'm just still waiting on answers from the Highlands faithful that are more than just the same empty rhetoric.

 

It's juvenile because the questions were in the opening post, so asking me to go back and rehash everything in a style that fits your liking is juvenile.

 

My posts have been clear and my questions obvious. I don't need to go and repost them all just because you suddenly want to answer them after six and a half pages.

There's a thread here with a great article from Michael Graham. I suggest reading it and maybe you'll get a better understanding of where the program is today. I'm on my phone or I'd link the thread.

No Dale. When one of the Best all time coaches in the state steps down for whatever reason it's darn near impossible to fill those shoes.

 

Up until recent years, you could expect their JV squad to put a running clock on a team like Grant County, and now their varsity squad loses to them in the first round?

 

What caused the downfall?

 

Is it as simple as Dale leaving?

 

Is it that Highlands closed their enrollment borders and would only let students in from the immediate area?

 

Is it that other schools established feeder programs and their teams are getting better?

 

Is there some other possibility that I'm missing?

 

Will they ever return to domination or even as the leader in Northern Kentucky?

 

 

One by one....

 

Didn't lose to Grant Cty. Get your facts straight

 

Define downfall? One losing season? If that's the case then there are a bunch of teams on the downfall.

 

Hard to replace a legend. It'll take a little time for BW to put his stamp on the program. Plus the talent depth BW has compared to Dale is huge.

 

Highlands can only take so many students. When there is no room due to some bigger classes, the tuition students were limited. But it's been proven time and time again that the tuition athletes are a very small part of the team.

 

Obviously some NKY teams have gotten better. Changed things around and modeled what other successful schools are doing.

 

What you're missing is that EVERY program has ups and downs. Just happens that Highlands ups and downs are spread out and we had a one year dip this year. It happens.

 

I'm not sure you'll see any NKY team dominate like Highlands did for so many years. But you don't have the 2nd most wins in the nation and just drop off the map. They'll have their years where they are dominate.

 

 

There you go, all questions answered.

I could care less about keeping the thread alive at this point, I'm just still waiting on answers from the Highlands faithful that are more than just the same empty rhetoric.

 

It's juvenile because the questions were in the opening post, so asking me to go back and rehash everything in a style that fits your liking is juvenile.

 

My posts have been clear and my questions obvious. I don't need to go and repost them all just because you suddenly want to answer them after six and a half pages.

 

You need a hug!

 

Your post have been argumentative, combative, and challengeing. You say you just want answers, but really you just are trying to expose HHS for something. You seem to have plenty of time, so look them up. All your answers are on BGP! I don't have time to play your games.

 

Maybe someone else will come on and play.

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One by one....

 

Didn't lose to Grant Cty. Get your facts straight

We already established that I was wrong there, but regardless, it was to a team in the same class in the FIRST ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS.

Define downfall? One losing season? If that's the case then there are a bunch of teams on the downfall.

We defined that, as well, with many possible definitions, like how they blew every team out and now put together a losing record.

 

When a team has one of the top two most successful teams in the country for 25 years, where they would blow teams out regularly, and then has a 3 win season, if you try to say "it's just one off season," then I think you're high on something.

 

And it's been more than one season: Losing in the final game in Dale's last year, and then going .500 in the regular season the next year (I think, but did make it to the semi-finals of state), then now having a three win season, and you think all is good and well in Fort Thomas?

 

Looks like a downward spiral to me, and that could be your definition of downfall if you need one.

Hard to replace a legend. It'll take a little time for BW to put his stamp on the program. Plus the talent depth BW has compared to Dale is huge.

There's that big of a drop-off in talent? Why? How? I thought the feeder program supplied Highlands with all the talent it needed. Highlands had enough talent to two-platoon and destroy teams, and now they suddenly lack enough talent to have kids only playing on one side of the ball?

 

Seems like more than a talent drop-off, and maybe that's the answer that it has to be Dale or other schools improving.

Highlands can only take so many students. When there is no room due to some bigger classes, the tuition students were limited. But it's been proven time and time again that the tuition athletes are a very small part of the team.

Right.

 

So you're telling me that there was a big enough drop-off in enrollment that Highlands had to open the enrollment borders? What caused the drop-off? Highlands is a good school and everyone in the area wants to go there, so it seems like they wouldn't have to completely open the borders again but just accept some students that applied.

Obviously some NKY teams have gotten better. Changed things around and modeled what other successful schools are doing.

But better to the point that they're beating Highlands when Highlands used to win by 50+ points?

What you're missing is that EVERY program has ups and downs. Just happens that Highlands ups and downs are spread out and we had a one year dip this year. It happens.

How many times has it been said that Highlands doesn't rebuild, they reload? Not winning state in Dale's final year, then going .500 in the regular season, and then a 3-win season, and it's one down year?

 

Keep in mind that those are two opposite ends of the spectrum from a program that was built to dominate every year and did for 25 years.

I'm not sure you'll see any NKY team dominate like Highlands did for so many years. But you don't have the 2nd most wins in the nation and just drop off the map. They'll have their years where they are dominate.

How do you figure? Will the talent return? Will BW suddenly be inspired by the living ghost of Dale?

 

And you're making my point: you don't have the 2nd most wins in the nation and suddenly only win 3 games if something isn't seriously wrong.

 

There you go, all questions answered.

 

Not good answers :thumb:

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