@capt278 Here are the posts. So tell me again where it's spin when

 

A)the thread title included "black" along with "Muslim"

B)He referenced it in #30 saying it may not be wise because voters vote along racial lines

 

If one brings up black along with Muslim in the title (and later acknowledges that black is a factor) then how is that spin or pigeonholing?

 

In another thread on here you openly discuss white politicians and what type it make take to drive up the urban vote . You can attempt to question me or guilt me , whatever , I really dont care . Mentioning the guy that might lead one of the two national parties is a black Muslim isnt any sort of ism' , even funner is watching people try to cover for this guy . He was a radical extremist at one point , maybe he has changed . But still a terrible , goofy , horrific pick to lead your party back from this years election.

Am I wrong anywhere that Mr. Ellison is a black Muslim and voters do vote along racial lines ? To be clearer it isnt because he's black ( see 2 term pres Obama ) its because he has spent a bunch of time with radicals .

I'm cool with the criticisms of him. I guess the same standards of association don't apply to a key advisor Trump has hired.

I'm cool with the criticisms of him. I guess the same standards of association don't apply to a key advisor Trump has hired.

 

So what group does Bannon go give speeches to or accept money from like Ellison did?

So why is it a problem that he's black?

 

Who said it was a problem ?

 

You did. You said so in the thread title.

 

It's obviously an issue in your mind or you wouldn't have mentioned it and then try to tie it to regaining white vote.

 

Telling.

 

I never said it was a problem , I question the wisdom if the Dems want those white working class voters back. Americans tend to vote along racial lines according to available data .

 

So it's not a problem for YOU but the white voters ?

 

In another thread on here you openly discuss white politicians and what type it make take to drive up the urban vote . You can attempt to question me or guilt me , whatever , I really dont care . Mentioning the guy that might lead one of the two national parties is a black Muslim isnt any sort of ism' , even funner is watching people try to cover for this guy . He was a radical extremist at one point , maybe he has changed . But still a terrible , goofy , horrific pick to lead your party back from this years election.

 

Take your silk panties off.

 

Go back and look at my first post. It wasn't directed at anyone NOR did it say anything about racism.

 

YOU started the damn thread with "black" in the title.

 

So don't cry about it when someone asks you why you think that matters. I never once accused you nor anyone of being racist.

 

If you post it in the title and then reference it in the first post you need to be able to respond to why you think it's a factor.

Am I wrong anywhere that Mr. Ellison is a black Muslim and voters do vote along racial lines ? To be clearer it isnt because he's black ( see 2 term pres Obama ) its because he has spent a bunch of time with radicals .

 

Perfect example. You first back up WHY you stated he was black and then try to back away from it.

 

OWN it.

Ok . He was black when I started the thread and he's still black, a black , far left extremist , jew hating black to be rather exact . There . I owned it . Which is FAR FAR FAR more than Mr Ellison will ever admit . You dont just stay in a place/ job for 18 months then discover " well hell's bells Ethel these Islamist hate Jewish people " he left and denounced it when he needed to run for public office . Sorry for pointing that out - Not .

@capt278 Here are the posts. So tell me again where it's spin when

 

A)the thread title included "black" along with "Muslim"

B)He referenced it in #30 saying it may not be wise because voters vote along racial lines

 

If one brings up black along with Muslim in the title (and later acknowledges that black is a factor) then how is that spin or pigeonholing?

 

He says in his posts that he has no problem with him being black or Muslim.

 

YOU are the one that surmises he has a problem with it.

 

He simply said what is being said by every talking head out there that in this election there seemed to be voting along racial lines. Example: Blacks overwhelmingly voted for Clinton. That's fact. What's the problem with him pointing it out?

 

Like I said, you and other posters seem to be trying to say he meant something by describing Mr. Ellison as black, which he is, and as a Muslim, which he is.

I'm cool with the criticisms of him. I guess the same standards of association don't apply to a key advisor Trump has hired.

 

The absolute best part of all of it is that Ellison and Bannon supporters both claim that they are both staunchly pro-Isreal. :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

I'm cool with the criticisms of him. I guess the same standards of association don't apply to a key advisor Trump has hired.

 

Sure they do.

 

I have no personal knowledge if either are anti-Semites, racists, or whatever "ist" they are referred to.

 

From what one can find using Google, Mr. Bannon and Mr. Ellison seem to have some issues. I not ready to call either on any names. Why? The media tends to take things to the extreme these days.

Now I'm laughing even harder. :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

The absolute best part of all of it is that Ellison and Bannon supporters both claim that they are both staunchly pro-Isreal. :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

 

That's gonna be my stance from now on lol. Nobody loves Israel more than I do! In a serious note though, our country will never unite or heal if both the D's and R's can't acknowledge the good, the bad and the ugly on each side.

That's gonna be my stance from now on lol. Nobody loves Israel more than I do! In a serious note though, our country will never unite or heal if both the D's and R's can't acknowledge the good, the bad and the ugly on each side.

 

It's like a game of Poker. I see your Bannon and raise you an Ellison.

 

I'll be completely honest and say that the mere speculation about Ellison will likely have a negative effect on his chances of being elected into a position by the people and the democrats need to take a long hard candid look at if they want Ellison as the chair of the DNC in today's hyper sensitive racial climate right now. Unfortunately folks hide behind the lack of knowledge about the Alt Right and their lack of trust of the mainstream media to give Bannon a pass so it isn't a true balanced conversation. I remember a time where folks were disqualified from political office for having a racist uncle. Nowadays unless you can prove without a shadow of a doubt that someone is racist then they can be as shady as they want to be and context or lack of information rules the day to absolve them.

 

2016 and beyond......

SMH.

Sure they do.

 

I have no personal knowledge if either are anti-Semites, racists, or whatever "ist" they are referred to.

 

From what one can find using Google, Mr. Bannon and Mr. Ellison seem to have some issues. I not ready to call either on any names. Why? The media tends to take things to the extreme these days.

 

History tells me you're a pretty smart cat so I'm going to just write the above off.

 

Dude is also 6'0 tall and overweight. Didn't mention that in the thread title. Also didn't post in the OP that white voters may have problems with 6'0 overweight guys.

 

Come on. He posted the word "black" because he wanted to post the word "black" as part of the , in his opinion, idiocy.