November 8, 20169 yr Have you ever been accused of being overanalytical? Men in power tend to say and do bad things, especially men I'm power that do not fear God nor man. Heck, even the leader of Israel, who feared God, fell into this kind of mess. Also, I do not know what crawfish means. So...you're not "that bothered" by a powerful man saying and doing bad things...because that's just "what they do". That's the equivalent of "boys will be boys". How do you feel about a powerful woman saying and doing bad things?
November 8, 20169 yr Author And yet here you are, fearing God, and very very confused. Sexually assaulting women is bad. (at the risk of over-analyzing) Talking about women, in a way that objectifies them, is also bad. If you, as a leader of your church, do not stand up to the "bad things" that "men in power" do, then go back and read the opening post. I said that it is immoral and unholy to say those kind of things. So if you were to analyze that I think you would conclude that I also believe it is immoral and unholy to actually do those things.
November 8, 20169 yr If you expect more, then you may be disappointed. I do not see that many people in the political world that are a whole lot better than trump. If we don't expect more, we'll never get more. And just because David "fell into this mess". Doesn't mean we should be ok with our leaders falling into and bragging about the same mess. It's not justifiable, Bible story or not.
November 8, 20169 yr Author So...you're not "that bothered" by a powerful man saying and doing bad things...because that's just "what they do". That's the equivalent of "boys will be boys". How do you feel about a powerful woman saying and doing bad things? I said it was unholy and immoral. But we kind of love in an unholy and immoral society. I don't know whether or not I believe Trump actually went through with it. But I also don't know whether not i believe that Hillary Clinton actually blamed a 12-year-old rape victim for seeking the attention Of older men the back in the 1970s. I don't believe everything I hear politicians say.
November 8, 20169 yr go back and read the opening post. I said that it is immoral and unholy to say those kind of things. So if you were to analyze that I think you would conclude that I also believe it is immoral and unholy to actually do those things. You can say one thing and mean another. We all know what you meant, it was in the title. If you, a clergy, are not that bothered by something unholy and immoral, why all the fuss about signing a marriage certificate or baking a cake? I feel like I am in a monty python skit.
November 8, 20169 yr go back and read the opening post. I said that it is immoral and unholy to say those kind of things. So if you were to analyze that I think you would conclude that I also believe it is immoral and unholy to actually do those things. But you said you are not bothered. So you are not bothered by unholy or immoral actions or words. That is the point. This would have been more believable to me if someone had said that Donald Trump is immoral and unholy and his words and actions are deplorable and not Christian like at all. However, I think he is the best person of the two candidates to get the economy rolling, abolish ObamaCare, etc. Even though I disagree wholeheartedly with that, I understand.
November 8, 20169 yr In hindsight PP1 are you having any regrets for having opened up this can of worms? You're no doubt a nice guy and will be forgiven, and your innocence is even sorta cute, but I think that many now have eyes bulging out of their heads in disbelief too close to bedtime when they were probably just planning to wind down for the night. And while discussing forgiveness, I've no doubt (hypothetically speaking) that you'd be forgiving of the principal of your children's school with a similar character as Donald, and would be perfectly fine with him continuing to work there after being exposed of similar actions. In that same spirit let's all forgive Donald, forget his questionable character, and at the end of the day make him the leader of our country. It's the only logical and sound thing to do.
November 8, 20169 yr The faux outrage over Trump's potty mind/mouth is amusing. Most of us on this board are going to vote along ideological lines.....leftists, righties, and the lefties that think they are "independents/centrists".
November 8, 20169 yr The faux outrage over Trump's potty mind/mouth is amusing. Most of us on this board are going to vote along ideological lines.....leftists, righties, and the lefties that think they are "independents/centrists". I'm more perplexed by the inconsistencies of those who typically take the moral high ground than I am of Donald's character. If it wasn't so hypocritically vulgar it would be humorous. I've never personally claimed to so perfect, but I've been condemned for simply having a sexual orientation by nature that I didn't even choose, and I can say without doubt that I've never behaved anywhere near as despicably as Donald has yet I've been on this board 'til I was blue in the face trying to convince those who lack the capacity for understanding that it wasn't a choice, and that I am not an abomination and a sinner in their god's eye that requires forgiveness and repentance for sharing loving intimacy with my partner, yet now these same people are so easily going to give old crazy smarmy Donnie a pass? Right. Excuse me while I vomit. :puke:
November 8, 20169 yr I'm not religious at all, so take this with a grain of salt, but you can't be considered a "good christian" and be "not that bothered" by Trump's comments. But let's kill babies!! That's just fine.
November 8, 20169 yr Bill Cosby was brought down without "proof". Many of the posters dismissing Trump's words were calling for Cosby head on a platter from the get-go...no one waited for proof then....why now? Bill Cosby has not been found guilty of anything.
November 8, 20169 yr :laugh::laugh: deflection at its finest Bill Maher covered this in last week's New Rule. (Language warning) It's less about the actions and words (which are repulsive), and more about those who have contorted themselves for this man.
November 8, 20169 yr Bill Cosby has not been found guilty of anything. I kinda think you missed her point.
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