Hillary and the Bush's are Saudi connected. Kain has strong tie to radical Islam. Many politicians in power are connected to Saudis and extreme Islam groups.

 

I don't disagree, and I would add a good portion of Wall Street and banks have Saudi ties too.

Yes. People call it locker room talk and mean things. That is defending what he said.

 

That's what I would call it, nothing more, nothing less......non-issue for me.

How is she different that the average person? She has a long-standing political career…. global influence, money, power to name a few.

 

I would like to think Hilary is innocent based upon her otherwise decent career… but literally no idea…

 

I just fell out of my chair. :lol2:

That's what I would call it, nothing more, nothing less......non-issue for me.

 

I just fell out of my chair. :lol2:

 

Ditto:eek:

Ditto:eek:

 

Pura Vida's initial involvement in this discussion was to pretty much out of the blue say,

 

"I have a feeling this is coming..." (which I have a hunch that she is correct)

 

in response to JJ saying,

 

"If he done this literally then have the ladies come forth like with Cosby and indict him"

 

Then in follow up JJ engaged PV deeper into the conversation asking

 

"Then he needs to go to jail. What makes Hillary any different than the average person Pura Vida? Do you think that she is not guilty of what she has been accused?"

 

I can't speak for PV but I have a hunch that further discussion was done so reluctantly to appease to JJ's questioning and ended up getting in over her head.

 

Different people have various levels of political understanding. Some eat, sleep, and breath it so much that they might not realize that others don't. Pura Vida walked into the wrath of JJ who was eager to keep his thread alive and shed light on his "infallible authority" on all such things political.

 

I'm not defending that which others have found unbelievable with what PV has said, but more or less pointing out how her deeper involvement into the discussion was likely not her initial intent opening herself up to ridicule.

Pura Vida's initial involvement in this discussion was to pretty much out of the blue say,

 

"I have a feeling this is coming..." (which I have a hunch that she is correct)

 

in response to JJ saying,

 

"If he done this literally then have the ladies come forth like with Cosby and indict him"

 

Then in follow up JJ engaged PV deeper into the conversation asking

 

"Then he needs to go to jail. What makes Hillary any different than the average person Pura Vida? Do you think that she is not guilty of what she has been accused?"

 

I can't speak for PV but I have a hunch that further discussion was done so reluctantly to appease to JJ's questioning and ended up getting in over her head.

 

Different people have various levels of political understanding. Some eat, sleep, and breath it so much that they might not realize that others don't. Pura Vida walked in the wrath of JJ who was eager to keep his thread alive and shed light on his "infallible authority' on all such things political.

 

I'm not defending that which others have found unbelievable with what PV has said, but more or less pointing out how her deeper involvement into the discussion was likely not her initial intent opening herself up to ridicule.

 

You know what I agree with you. I never meant to cause her/him grief like that. @Pura Vida if I did I am sorry. I was on a rant for sure. Just want our country to get on the right track.

 

But I dont have infallible authority like you took a shot at me. I do follow this close and have for over 30 years now and know both sides have alot of faults that we need to fix now.

Kinda like the right is doing with the Trump bus comments?

 

Thanks for making my point.

Yes. People call it locker room talk and mean things. That is defending what he said.

 

Nope. That is stating a fact. Ugly fact but a fact nonetheless.

You are kidding right? Those things make her above the law? Does anyone still believe everyone should be treated the same?

 

IMO she knows too many dirty secrets to go to jail. People in power probably about crapped down their leg when they saw the potential for her to get indicted, she could probably bring the system down with all the shady things she knows.

Donald is unfit for a lot more than being a sexual predator. I mean saying mean things.

 

And Hillary is?

 

Look, Trump is not my 1-5 choice, but he has said mean things......has he ever had any charges brought against him?

 

Hillary on the other hand.......

Thanks for making my point.

 

So then you agree both sides choose to ignore glaring negatives about their candidate?

All the above posts is what I have said about lines being drawn. Nobody is changing their vote. Our country is divided big time. But according to some its peaches and cream. Unless we get on a different path this wont end well. Might not be in the next 4 years but its not gonna end well. And dont think for a second that other countries dont see this. We had rather fight ourselves.......than to figure out what the problems are. Look no further than the two candidates. I rest my case.

So then you agree both sides choose to ignore glaring negatives about their candidate?

 

Some on the Right may. Seems ALL on the Left do.

All the above posts is what I have said about lines being drawn. Nobody is changing their vote. Our country is divided big time. But according to some its peaches and cream. Unless we get on a different path this wont end well. Might not be in the next 4 years but its not gonna end well.

 

I don't know anybody that would describe it as "peaches and cream." I think everyone is for the most part in agreement that things have been better, especially in light of the candidates we are forced to choose from.

 

I think there is certainly a pretty drastic division in our country right now, and I think A LOT of that has to do with the polarizing candidates. Both candidates are genuinely hated by the opposing party (heck, one his hated by his own party). In an election year where the candidates are overall more likable and/or more qualified, I don't think the division would be as bad.

Some on the Right may. Seems ALL on the Left do.

 

That's simply not true. But, to each his own.