Advice from someone with no kids on how to raise kids. I love it. She was not alone. She had another adult and 2 other children, 1 practically an adult, along with her other 3 children with her.

 

BTW, I've never met a 3 year old boy who wasn't a pistol. Terrible 2's is a myth.

 

Totally agree. I've always said, whoever came up with the term "Terrible 2's" never met a 3-year-old.

If Mr. Bartender serves me 1 drink and I get into an accident, that's on me. If he serves me multiple drinks and I am falling down drunk, yeah, that's on him.

 

What if you've had multiple drinks elsewhere and then I give you a drink because you weren't showing any major signs of being intoxicated and the one drink that I serve you puts you over the edge. You drive home and kill someone. Still on me?

What if you've had multiple drinks elsewhere and then I give you a drink because you weren't showing any major signs of being intoxicated and the one drink that I serve you puts you over the edge. You drive home and kill someone. Still on me?

 

IDK. Lots of variables involved. Next question...

IDK. Lots of variables involved. Next question...

 

Haha definitely lots of variables involved. But as a bartender and establishment, both could be held liable in that situation and you gave them...one drink. They lecture us about it every year at the ballpark because people can get pretty sauced up at the Banks before and the one drink we serve them puts them over the edge.

Haha definitely lots of variables involved. But as a bartender and establishment, both could be held liable in that situation and you gave them...one drink. They lecture us about it every year at the ballpark because people can get pretty sauced up at the Banks before and the one drink we serve them puts them over the edge.

 

So based on your lectures and this nifty little comparison, do you think the woman should be charged with the death of the gorilla?

So based on your lectures and this nifty little comparison, do you think the woman should be charged with the death of the gorilla?

 

If the blame were to be put anywhere, it would start with the woman. JMO.

So based on your lectures and this nifty little comparison, do you think the woman should be charged with the death of the gorilla?

 

I don't. Just like I don't think I should be charged because I served someone one beer. I do think it was her mistake.

 

I think its best, especially for the zoo to put this as far in the rearview mirror as possible. The last thing the zoo probably wants is this going into litigation and dragging on for years.

If the gorilla getting shot got a lot of people's blood boiling, I can't imagine this story...a man in Chile attempts suicide by jumping into the lion enclosure getting the lions shot.

 

Santiago Zoo scene of suicide attempt after naked man jumps into lion cage | Daily Mail Online

If the gorilla getting shot got a lot of people's blood boiling, I can't imagine this story...a man in Chile attempts suicide by jumping into the lion enclosure getting the lions shot.

 

Santiago Zoo scene of suicide attempt after naked man jumps into lion cage | Daily Mail Online

 

1. Why in the world would THAT be your choice of suicide?

 

2. If that guy doesn't get charged...

Just pointing out he wasn't caught in the wild... And still, after the millions of inspections it's passed, it's not the zoo's fault.

Oh, they had inspections?

 

Come on.

Is it really that hard to believe that a Zoo is required to have safety inspections at least once a year? I would imagine it would be more often than that, and should have an answer here shortly.

I don't doubt they had inspections. To say they had inspections therefore they are not culpable is illogical.

Why is that illogical? If their safety procedures are up to current standards, then why would the zoo be held liable?

 

Feds: Cincinnati Zoo's gorilla barrier wasn't in compliance the day gorilla Harambe was shot

 

 

CINCINNATI —A federal inspection has concluded that the Cincinnati Zoo's barrier to keep the public and gorillas separate wasn't in compliance with standards for housing primates the day a 3-year-old boy slipped into the gorilla exhibit.

 

A USDA inspection in April, six weeks before the child got into the enclosure, yielded no violations at the zoo, and the barrier system has never been found to be noncompliant in previous inspections, the zoo pointed out in a statement released Thursday.

"The Cincinnati Zoo reaffirms its longstanding commitment to the well-being of the resident animals and the safety of those inspired to view and conserve them," the zoo said in a written statement. "Its stellar record in that regard includes 43 million visitors over the last four decades who have enjoyed the Gorilla World exhibit without coming in contact with the gorillas."

The USDA acknowledged that the organization had not found the barrier to be noncompliant in previous inspections.

"Barriers between exhibits and the general public must restrict public contact from the animals," USDA spokesperson Tanya Espinosa said. "In the case of the incident that occurred at the Cincinnati Zoo, the barrier had been in existence since 1978 with no updates, and while there had not been any issues prior to the May 28th incident, it became apparent on May 28th that the barrier was no longer effective."

The federal inspection report viewed by The Associated Press states that the zoo's dangerous-animal response team properly followed procedures after zoo visitors called 911 on May 28 to report a child in the gorilla enclosure.

Full video: Child gets into Cincinnati Zoo gorilla enclosure

A team member concluded that the child was in "life-threatening danger," and the 17-year-old gorilla named Harambe was killed.

 

The zoo quickly improved the barrier following the gorilla's death. U.S. Agriculture Department spokeswoman Tanya Espinosa says an investigation is continuing. It could lead to fines or other disciplinary action.

 

Feds: Cincinnati Zoo's gorilla barrier wasn't in compliance the day gorilla Harambe was shot

 

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CINCINNATI —A federal inspection has concluded that the Cincinnati Zoo's barrier to keep the public and gorillas separate wasn't in compliance with standards for housing primates the day a 3-year-old boy slipped into the gorilla exhibit.

 

A USDA inspection in April, six weeks before the child got into the enclosure, yielded no violations at the zoo, and the barrier system has never been found to be noncompliant in previous inspections, the zoo pointed out in a statement released Thursday.

"The Cincinnati Zoo reaffirms its longstanding commitment to the well-being of the resident animals and the safety of those inspired to view and conserve them," the zoo said in a written statement. "Its stellar record in that regard includes 43 million visitors over the last four decades who have enjoyed the Gorilla World exhibit without coming in contact with the gorillas."

The USDA acknowledged that the organization had not found the barrier to be noncompliant in previous inspections.

"Barriers between exhibits and the general public must restrict public contact from the animals," USDA spokesperson Tanya Espinosa said. "In the case of the incident that occurred at the Cincinnati Zoo, the barrier had been in existence since 1978 with no updates, and while there had not been any issues prior to the May 28th incident, it became apparent on May 28th that the barrier was no longer effective."

The federal inspection report viewed by The Associated Press states that the zoo's dangerous-animal response team properly followed procedures after zoo visitors called 911 on May 28 to report a child in the gorilla enclosure.

Full video: Child gets into Cincinnati Zoo gorilla enclosure

A team member concluded that the child was in "life-threatening danger," and the 17-year-old gorilla named Harambe was killed.

 

The zoo quickly improved the barrier following the gorilla's death. U.S. Agriculture Department spokeswoman Tanya Espinosa says an investigation is continuing. It could lead to fines or other disciplinary action.

 

So, how does the zoo pass every inspection previous to this including one just weeks before but now they are out of compliance. Sounds like the USDA didn't do their jobs on previous inspections and could be held liable.

So, how does the zoo pass every inspection previous to this including one just weeks before but now they are out of compliance. Sounds like the USDA didn't do their jobs on previous inspections and could be held liable.

 

Yep. If I were the Cincinnati Zoo I'd be calling whoever cleared us all those times.

Yeah.... they pass all inspections previous until now, I still don't buy it

The old barrier seems like an adequate deterrent.

The old barrier seems like an adequate deterrent.

 

Well...except for the fact that a child got through it.

 

 

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