April 9, 201610 yr I'm with you. Trickle-down hasn't worked for the masses; wealth disparity is greater than ever. I'm talking about billions being thrown at these problems and it hasn't worked. Nothing trickle down about our welfare system.
April 9, 201610 yr Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives." ---John Stuart Mill Pretty much how I feel about liberals:lol2::lol2:
April 9, 201610 yr I'm with you. Trickle-down hasn't worked for the masses; wealth disparity is greater than ever. mcpapa go talk to some real eastern Kentucky people. You wont like what they have to say....I can honestly say I do not know one person that thinks like you guys do among all the Democrats that I know and I know alot. Black White Latino Asian, none of them even remotely think like this. Some of the younger people I know really like Bernie, but they will tell you they think that he is gonna get all their college debt took care of. They dont care who pays for it as long as they dont have to and they will tell you that. By the way I think Bernie actually believes what he says and for that I give him credit.
April 9, 201610 yr Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Chinese Proverb Teaching a person how to fish used to work, but no longer. At some point, big business will buy the fishing lake and put an electric fence around it.
April 9, 201610 yr mcpapa go talk to some real eastern Kentucky people. You wont like what they have to say....I can honestly say I do not know one person that thinks like you guys do among all the Democrats that I know and I know alot. Black White Latino Asian, none of them even remotely think like this. Some of the younger people I know really like Bernie, but they will tell you they think that he is gonna get all their college debt took care of. They dont care who pays for it as long as they dont have to and they will tell you that. By the way I think Bernie actually believes what he says and for that I give him credit. Some of those same people just sacraficed the first health insurance they ever had for a governor who would push a different marriage form but cancel their insurance. Sometimes people's Priorities aren't exactly in line with what's best for them.
April 9, 201610 yr Some of those same people just sacraficed the first health insurance they ever had for a governor who would push a different marriage form but cancel their insurance. Sometimes people's Priorities aren't exactly in line with what's best for them. There in lies the problem with liberal thinking. You think you know what is better for the individual than they themselves do.
April 9, 201610 yr Teaching a person how to fish used to work, but no longer. At some point, big business will buy the fishing lake and put an electric fence around it. Then by all means, let's continue to just give the man fish after fish and he learns he has to do nothing for it. He teaches this to his children and ta da, generational welfare is born.
April 9, 201610 yr Then by all means, let's continue to just give the man fish after fish and he learns he has to do nothing for it. He teaches this to his children and ta da, generational welfare is born. The reduced number of fishing lakes, metaphorically speaking, partially explains the success of both Sanders and Trump. Used to be those dependent on Uncle Sam were "the least among us." That's no longer the case. People of all incomes have been cast aside by corporations seeking to maximize profits by shifting production overseas and setting up HQ in foreign countries.
April 9, 201610 yr The reduced number of fishing lakes, metaphorically speaking, partially explains the success of both Sanders and Trump. Used to be those dependent on Uncle Sam were "the least among us." That's no longer the case. People of all incomes have been cast aside by corporations seeking to maximize profits by shifting production overseas and setting up HQ in foreign countries. I know you on the Left hate this, but it is a corporations job to maximize profits for it's shareholders. I hate that jobs have been sent overseas as much as anyone. One of the main reasons this has happened is due to the greedy unions.
April 9, 201610 yr I know you on the Left hate this, but it is a corporations job to maximize profits for it's shareholders. I hate that jobs have been sent overseas as much as anyone. One of the main reasons this has happened is due to the greedy unions. Which would have never developed had corporations not been so greedy by doing everything to maximize profits even at the expense of their workers. Low wages, long work days/weeks, etc. I'm not a big fan of unions, but they've done a lot of good for American workers .
April 9, 201610 yr Author Back to the quotes. "The poor are still largely invisible to the complacent majority. Most Americans don't see the everydayness of poverty. It is segregated in bad neighborhoods and in impersonal government waiting rooms." - Jack Newfield, February 2003
April 9, 201610 yr Which would have never developed had corporations not been so greedy by doing everything to maximize profits even at the expense of their workers. Low wages, long work days/weeks, etc. I'm not a big fan of unions, but they've done a lot of good for American workers . In their day they did do a lot for the American worker. All unions are now are greedy corporations unto themselves. They have outgrown their usefulness.
April 10, 201610 yr There in lies the problem with liberal thinking. You think you know what is better for the individual than they themselves do. I would think that is what is great about thinking: trying to look out for the best interests for their fellow man.
April 10, 201610 yr I would think that is what is great about thinking: trying to look out for the best interests for their fellow man. I disagree. You know what is better for you than I do and visa versa.
April 10, 201610 yr Author "Progressives say, 'We're all in this together,' while conservatives say, 'You're on your own.'" - George Lakoff, December 2006
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